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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    so what did?

    and link it to a CREDIBLE source, not Hillary's blog or some ****.
    Why dont you post one first since it was your assertion?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    All of this time wasted handwringing over the response or lack of response and who is to blame for it when we should be talking about the reasons for the attack, and countless other attacks, and why they occured in the first place, which is of course American meddling.


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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Where did you get that BS? Are you more concerned with greeting Jack than with the truth?
    Those that died were pleading for help, and signaling from the roof for planes that they were sure were on their way to rescue them - which never arrived in time. Do you deny that? Is it true that a plane that could have been sent was told to "stand down?" There was a room full of people watching the attack in real time - do you deny that? Have the thugs that raped and killed an American Ambassador, and three others, been brought to justice yet? If not, why not?

    What I stated in my post was what I have been told by many people who have never been on DP or any other internet site, but feel something should have attempted to help those under siege. It didn't help when the explanations for that incident kept changing, either. As time passes, we are learning more about that unfortunate time, and eventually the truth will be known. Sad, but that's life.

    Greetings, pbrauer.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You will have to supply a credible link on the bold.

    And not being in an embassy is why no help was sent?

    Democrats sure have flexible ethics. Now the government is exonerated for letting its public servants die a horrible death at the hands of spontaneous demonstrators, er, terrorists if they are not in an embassy.

    I will inform the American tourists who come to Canada they may be shot and killed at any time and the United States government through the genius of Barrack Obama is completely powerless to help them; they are at the mercy of the rabble of baby seal killers who are right pissed off about the XL pipeline and ready to throw a spontaneous demonstration complete with grenade launchers and AK 47's.

    And isn't the president responsible for the CIA? If it was them, why is he not investigating?

    And, by the way, where is that promise from Obama that those responsible would be arrested and dealt with? What happened to the FBI agents he sent in there?
    This is a accurate account of this incident IMO. A typical CIA SNAFU.

    The report faults the military for being unable to help when needed. “No U.S. military resources in position to intervene in short order in Benghazi to help defend” the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, it says.

    Yet it points out that Stevens had rejected additional security. The Defense Department had provided a Site Security Team in Tripoli, made up of 16 special operations personnel to provide security and other help. The report says the State Department decided not to extend the team’s mission in August 2012, one month before the attack.

    In the weeks that followed, Gen. Carter Ham, the head of Africa Command, twice asked Stevens to employ the team, and twice Stevens declined, the report said.

    The report also says, “Intelligence analysts inaccurately referred to the presence of a protest at the U.S. mission facility before the attack based on open source information and limited intelligence, but without sufficient intelligence or eyewitness statements to corroborate that assertion.”
    Benghazi report: AFRICOM general offered ambassador help before attack | Navy Times | navytimes.com

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    This is a accurate account of this incident IMO. A typical CIA SNAFU.


    Benghazi report: AFRICOM general offered ambassador help before attack | Navy Times | navytimes.com
    What would you identify as a SNAFU?
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Those that died were pleading for help, and signaling from the roof for planes that they were sure were on their way to rescue them - which never arrived in time. Do you deny that? Is it true that a plane that could have been sent was told to "stand down?" There was a room full of people watching the attack in real time - do you deny that? Have the thugs that raped and killed an American Ambassador, and three others, been brought to justice yet? If not, why not?

    What I stated in my post was what I have been told by many people who have never been on DP or any other internet site, but feel something should have attempted to help those under siege. It didn't help when the explanations for that incident kept changing, either. As time passes, we are learning more about that unfortunate time, and eventually the truth will be known. Sad, but that's life.
    It's more persuasive if you don't repeat the 'stand down' order nonsense. There have been multiple people testify to that directly. A plane with some special forces personnel were sent from Tripoli to Benghazi, and they joined in the evacuation efforts. When the order to 'hold in place' was issued to a team that was asked to remain in Tripoli to secure and protect facilities and personnel there, the survivors of the Benghazi attack were already on their way to the airport, the immediate danger passed, and if they'd left Tripoli on that flight, they'd have passed in the air the first plane departed from Benghazi with the seriously wounded aboard.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's more persuasive if you don't repeat the 'stand down' order nonsense. There have been multiple people testify to that directly. A plane with some special forces personnel were sent from Tripoli to Benghazi, and they joined in the evacuation efforts. When the order to 'hold in place' was issued to a team that was asked to remain in Tripoli to secure and protect facilities and personnel there, the survivors of the Benghazi attack were already on their way to the airport, the immediate danger passed, and if they'd left Tripoli on that flight, they'd have passed in the air the first plane departed from Benghazi with the seriously wounded aboard.
    I'm really very glad to hear that the " stand down" order was incorrectly reported! - I couldn't believe my ears, although it was reported by the MSM, and did make the news for a while. Just proves you can't always believe what you hear! :

    Greetings, JasperL.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's more persuasive if you don't repeat the 'stand down' order nonsense. There have been multiple people testify to that directly. A plane with some special forces personnel were sent from Tripoli to Benghazi, and they joined in the evacuation efforts. When the order to 'hold in place' was issued to a team that was asked to remain in Tripoli to secure and protect facilities and personnel there, the survivors of the Benghazi attack were already on their way to the airport, the immediate danger passed, and if they'd left Tripoli on that flight, they'd have passed in the air the first plane departed from Benghazi with the seriously wounded aboard.
    We're anxiously awaiting the eventual release of more E-mails.

    Considering the latest release and Jay Carney's ridiculous bald face lie that it wasn't related to Benghazzi, I think its smart to assume anything thats been said in defense of the White Houses unprecedented Politicizing of Four dead Americans is dubious at best.

    When it came down to it, the order for Military action could have only come from Obama and no one seems to know where he was on the night of 9/11.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    We're anxiously awaiting the eventual release of more E-mails.

    Considering the latest release and Jay Carney's ridiculous bald face lie that it wasn't related to Benghazzi, I think its smart to assume anything thats been said in defense of the White Houses unprecedented Politicizing of Four dead Americans is dubious at best.

    When it came down to it, the order for Military action could have only come from Obama and no one seems to know where he was on the night of 9/11.
    Carney was indeed both ridiculous and pathetic today.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm no Obama hater. I do wish he'd at least tried. It bothers me. I coulda been the guy painting that target and hoping my sacrifice makes a difference for the others.
    Come on Ecofarm, Obama is a ****ing community organizer not a Commander in Chief.

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