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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And since that Ambassador was not in a US embassy AND turned down a offer of more security probably because the CIA did not want their cover blown, it is all Obama's fault? This was a CIA screwup and why should we be surprised at that? Bush gave them all got raises after they allowed the 911 attack and the Medal of Freedom to the CIA head after he called the presence of WMD's in the Iraq a "slam dunk". They are rewarded for failure and now that is all they can do.
    You will have to supply a credible link on the bold.

    And not being in an embassy is why no help was sent?

    Democrats sure have flexible ethics. Now the government is exonerated for letting its public servants die a horrible death at the hands of spontaneous demonstrators, er, terrorists if they are not in an embassy.

    I will inform the American tourists who come to Canada they may be shot and killed at any time and the United States government through the genius of Barrack Obama is completely powerless to help them; they are at the mercy of the rabble of baby seal killers who are right pissed off about the XL pipeline and ready to throw a spontaneous demonstration complete with grenade launchers and AK 47's.

    And isn't the president responsible for the CIA? If it was them, why is he not investigating?

    And, by the way, where is that promise from Obama that those responsible would be arrested and dealt with? What happened to the FBI agents he sent in there?
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    I did not say there was.
    I did not say the words were uttered.
    I said that is WHAT HAPPENED and unless you can show some sort of military action to defend those on the ground I would say its exactly what happened. And its exactly the way this regime acts - itself first above even life of others.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, it's not. There was no "stand down" order.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Hillary Clinton is not a general. I'm not sure what "direct control" people think she would have had over anything that night.



    How about a phone call on behalf of her staff, you know the one that got assassinated, to a general to make sure everything was being done?

    How about taking responsibility for the mission, whatever it was, and coming clean about it, as opposed to the "what difference does it make" academy performance she gave?

    How about getting honest?

    These are all things that a cabinet secretary is sworn to do. She did not.

    She lied, the employee for whom she was 100% responsible died.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No one is claiming there was a stand down order. His testimony was that there were no orders at all.
    Here is some of his testimony:

    CONNELLY: I want to read to you the conclusion of the chairman of the [Armed Services] Committee, the Republican chairman Buck McKeon, who conducted formal briefings and oversaw that report he said quote "I'm pretty well satisfied that given where the troops were, how quickly the thing all happened, and how quickly it dissipated we probably couldn't have done much more than we did." Do you take issue with the chairman of the Armed Services Committee? In that conclusion?

    LOVELL: His conclusion that he couldn't have done much more than they did with the capability and the way they executed it?

    CONNELLY: Given the timeframe.

    LOVELL: That's a fact.

    CONNELLY: Okay.

    LOVELL: The way it is right now. The way he stated it.

    CONNELLY: Alright, because I'm sure you can appreciate, general, there might be some who, for various and sundry reasons would like to distort your testimony and suggest that you're testifying that we could have, should have done a lot more than we did because we had capabilities we simply didn't utilize. That is not your testimony?

    LOVELL: That is not my testimony.

    CONNELLY: I thank you very much, general.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    You think if hilda had asked for military support it would have been denied? Really?

    Hilda would throw obama right under the bus if that were true. I doubt the chosen one was awake when the decisions needed to be made - he had an early flight to his fundraiser in vegas.


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think Hillary is a hawk. I don't think she had direct control.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That's not what happened.

    so what did?

    and link it to a CREDIBLE source, not Hillary's blog or some ****.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is some of his testimony:

    CONNELLY: I want to read to you the conclusion of the chairman of the [Armed Services] Committee, the Republican chairman Buck McKeon, who conducted formal briefings and oversaw that report he said quote "I'm pretty well satisfied that given where the troops were, how quickly the thing all happened, and how quickly it dissipated we probably couldn't have done much more than we did." Do you take issue with the chairman of the Armed Services Committee? In that conclusion?

    LOVELL: His conclusion that he couldn't have done much more than they did with the capability and the way they executed it?

    CONNELLY: Given the timeframe.

    LOVELL: That's a fact.

    CONNELLY: Okay.

    LOVELL: The way it is right now. The way he stated it.

    CONNELLY: Alright, because I'm sure you can appreciate, general, there might be some who, for various and sundry reasons would like to distort your testimony and suggest that you're testifying that we could have, should have done a lot more than we did because we had capabilities we simply didn't utilize. That is not your testimony?

    LOVELL: That is not my testimony.

    CONNELLY: I thank you very much, general.

    /Thread
    No need to quote it. I saw it. Connelly's goal was to change the subject, just as it is apparently yours. Lovell never said there was more that could have been done. His point was that it was dishonorable not to have tried.
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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    I did not say there was.
    I did not say the words were uttered.
    I said that is WHAT HAPPENED and unless you can show some sort of military action to defend those on the ground I would say its exactly what happened. And its exactly the way this regime acts - itself first above even life of others.
    A CIA security team responded. General Ham felt CAS was not appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You will have to supply a credible link on the bold.

    And not being in an embassy is why no help was sent?

    Democrats sure have flexible ethics. Now the government is exonerated for letting its public servants die a horrible death at the hands of spontaneous demonstrators, er, terrorists if they are not in an embassy.

    I will inform the American tourists who come to Canada they may be shot and killed at any time and the United States government through the genius of Barrack Obama is completely powerless to help them; they are at the mercy of the rabble of baby seal killers who are right pissed off about the XL pipeline and ready to throw a spontaneous demonstration complete with grenade launchers and AK 47's.

    And isn't the president responsible for the CIA? If it was them, why is he not investigating?

    And, by the way, where is that promise from Obama that those responsible would be arrested and dealt with? What happened to the FBI agents he sent in there?
    You are a funny guy...


    Christopher Stevens, the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, who was killed along with three other Americans after terrorists stormed the mission, twice turned down offers from senior military officials for additional security at the facility, McClatchy news services reported.

    Read more: Late Benghazi U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens turned down offers of more security


    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.

    Republicans and their allies have been trying to politicize the attack — which killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya — suggesting, without evidence, the Obama administration may have ignored intelligence that the attack was imminent, didn’t properly secure the Benghazi compound and is now trying to cover it up.

    But hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:


    For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program – well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” – a charge Republicans rejected.

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    Re: General: We Should Have Tried in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    You think if hilda had asked for military support it would have been denied? Really?
    I think she would, and therefore she didn't have the opportunity. Just my opinion.

    Hilda would throw obama right under the bus if that were true.
    Nah. At least, not until she needs to for her own campaign.

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