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Thread: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So in other words "never mind"?
    There is no reason to believe that companies will lay off needed employees simply because of a raise in minimum wage.
    There... I fixed it for you.
    You have to think it out. You can only do that by hearing both sides of the argument. Yes. Some people will be laid off because of an increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how many it would be. Yes. Some people will have a better lifestyle because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how much of an improvement. Yes. Some people will buy more things because they have more money. No. We can't tell what things they will buy. Yes. Prices will go up on some products because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We don't know on which products or how much.

    Fanaticism doesn't solve jack squat. You have to listen to both sides of the argument when making a decision and brace yourself for the possible consequences. Both sides of the argument are right. There are billions and billions of factors that could impact the situation. It can't be simplistically solved by treating your particular ideology as the perfect indicator of what will happen.

    For example: Would raising the minimum wage to $100 an hour have a catastrophically negative impact? Yes. Raising it to $10 will cause the same ripples but much smaller. You can't be a complete idiot. You have to consider all sides.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    Minimum wage is a joke, the FED is a joke, and society is a joke.
    You aren't talking about the Debate Politics society. Are you?

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    You have to think it out. You can only do that by hearing both sides of the argument. Yes. Some people will be laid off because of an increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how many it would be. Yes. Some people will have a better lifestyle because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how much of an improvement. Yes. Some people will buy more things because they have more money. No. We can't tell what things they will buy. Yes. Prices will go up on some products because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We don't know on which products or how much.

    Fanaticism doesn't solve jack squat. You have to listen to both sides of the argument when making a decision and brace yourself for the possible consequences. Both sides of the argument are right. There are billions and billions of factors that could impact the situation. It can't be simplistically solved by treating your particular ideology as the perfect indicator of what will happen.

    For example: Would raising the minimum wage to $100 an hour have a catastrophically negative impact? Yes. Raising it to $10 will cause the same ripples but much smaller. You can't be a complete idiot. You have to consider all sides.
    What's truly amazing about the Democrats is the way they can, with the help of a complaint media, bring up these non-issues, get everyone debating them, and all the while ignoring the real problems America faces.

    Last election it was birth control and the "War on Women", now issues long forgotten, and now it will a minimum wage, or some other equally trivial non-issue. Isn't it time to get serious?

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Let see...McDonalds profits last year were over $5.5 billion. How many employees could that cover?
    If investors get 0.0% return on their investment the answer is 318,395 employees at $7.25 an hour or 228,550 employees at $10.10 an hour. Investors usually want to receive 12% on their investment.

    If the value of all outstanding stock at the beginning of the year was $45,900,000,000 or less then it would cover 0 employees.

    You have to remember rich people are greedy, filthy, disgusting and horrible people. They won't invest in a company at all unless they will receive a profit. Sometimes you have to consider the reality of the world.

    With that in mind: What was the value of all outstanding stock at the beginning of the year for McDonalds?

    Big numbers have the potential to empower liars to make misleading statements. Answer the question or stop with the lies.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Isn't it time to get serious?
    Nah! What's the fun in that?

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its the only really truly squeezable place.... it will likely come out of bonuses.
    A price increase is far more tenable, particularly when the working poor have just had an income boost.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    You have to think it out. You can only do that by hearing both sides of the argument. Yes. Some people will be laid off because of an increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how many it would be. Yes. Some people will have a better lifestyle because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We can't guess how much of an improvement. Yes. Some people will buy more things because they have more money. No. We can't tell what things they will buy. Yes. Prices will go up on some products because of the increase in the minimum wage. No. We don't know on which products or how much.

    Fanaticism doesn't solve jack squat. You have to listen to both sides of the argument when making a decision and brace yourself for the possible consequences. Both sides of the argument are right. There are billions and billions of factors that could impact the situation. It can't be simplistically solved by treating your particular ideology as the perfect indicator of what will happen.

    For example: Would raising the minimum wage to $100 an hour have a catastrophically negative impact? Yes. Raising it to $10 will cause the same ripples but much smaller. You can't be a complete idiot. You have to consider all sides.
    It's not a linear scale. The benefits of a $10 minimum wage could greatly outweigh the negatives while the same is not necessarily true for a billion dollar minimum wage.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I believe the question was how much gross revenue does an average business need to generate to cover $1 dollar of added cost.
    Roughly a dollar. How much does that raise the price of their product?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not a linear scale. The benefits of a $10 minimum wage could greatly outweigh the negatives while the same is not necessarily true for a billion dollar minimum wage.
    The dogmatic political doctrines of the two sides are valuable because it is a great tool to keep us from going to extreme with our decisions. I guess I just get annoyed with it at times.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The dogmatic political doctrines of the two sides are valuable because it is a great tool to keep us from going to extreme with our decisions. I guess I just get annoyed with it at times.
    Literally nobody has suggested anything in the same universe as a $100 minimum wage. There wasn't any risk of "going to extremes." If minimum wage had even kept up with inflation over the last few decades it would already be $10. There's nothing extreme here. If it had kept up with worker productivity it would be even higher.

    The real value of minimum wage has been going down for thirty years. And people are acting like raising it is some extreme socialist idea.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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