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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its the only really truly squeezable place.... it will likely come out of bonuses.
    Nonsense. Profit = Sales - Cost of sales. Any added cost of sales (whether wages or taxes) is not "absorbed" by reducing other cost of sales items; it is passed on to the customer by price increases for the goods/services to keep profits stable.
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Interesting how sure people here are, or go so far as to say "anyone who knows economics knows it will increase unemployment!" Yet, apparently those who actually do aren't even sure if it will or won't:
    Poll Results | IGM Forum

    38 economist were pretty split on if it will or won't, yet people are much smarter then them and know for sure.

    As for it only being democrats for a minimum wage raise, once again also wrong. 58% of Republicans supported raising the minimum wage:
    Most Americans for Raising Minimum Wage

    Finally, though a blog article, brings up some good ways the increase of minimum wage may be covered besides just cutting jobs. Of the ones they mentioned having some data to back up, it was delaying wage increases for higher paid workers, raising prices (not 1 for 1 though), or becoming more efficient.
    Economists disagree on whether the minimum wage kills jobs. Why?

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Dear there are all ready background checks. That support crumbles when tge true goal of your idea is told. But by all means, go run with it lol
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dear there are all ready background checks. That support crumbles when tge true goal of your idea is told. But by all means, go run with it lol
    No there aren't. There are many loopholes to exploit. Mentally ill teabagger jared lougher managed to get a gun with ease. If they did a simple background check a massacre would have been prevented.
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    No there aren't. There are many loopholes to exploit. Mentally ill teabagger jared lougher managed to get a gun with ease. If they did a simple background check a massacre would have been prevented.

    Okay, that you try to smear the Tea Party by associating this lunatic as being part of, or in support of shows how dishonest a person you are. NO ONE should take you seriously moving forward. Seriously.


    Are there ways we can improve the system? Certainly, but that improvement has to be measured and intelligent, you cannot infringe on my rights because some fool did something however tragic. Idiots kill more people with cars doing stupid things every day then lunatics do so with guns, but you don't care about that do you?
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay, that you try to smear the Tea Party by associating this lunatic as being part of, or in support of shows how dishonest a person you are. NO ONE should take you seriously moving forward. Seriously.


    Are there ways we can improve the system? Certainly, but that improvement has to be measured and intelligent, you cannot infringe on my rights because some fool did something however tragic. Idiots kill more people with cars doing stupid things every day then lunatics do so with guns, but you don't care about that do you?
    Apples to oranges comparison.
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Apples to oranges comparison.
    Not really.

    You're all kinds of concerned about the very RARE instance of some lunatic opening fire on people.

    More lunatics drive cars then shoot people. Those same folks you want "background checks" for, also drive cars. On the road with you right now.
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Looks like conservatives will bring up cars every time gun control is brought up. Just like they bring up bestiality and pedophilia every time gay marriage issue comes up. Very pathetic.
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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You predict that 28% of people earning minimum wage would lose their job
    Nope. I didn't make that prediction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce
    nobody can predict the impact.
    I was describing the logic behind the argument. I never gave any predictions or opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce
    Here's a news flash: we've raised the minimum wage before and that's now how it goes.
    Raising the minimum wage usually happens after wages have already exceeded minimum wage. It's feel good legislation that really doesn't change anything.

    In 2005 very few people were making $5.15 an hour. Most entry level jobs were starting at $6.50. There are very few people making $7.25 an hour today. Most entry level jobs start at $8.00.

    I have to give credit to the Libertarian Party for raising awareness on the subject of minimum wage. Very few people fall for this type of political tactic. The increase of minimum wage is just political theatre. The public can see through it now because of efforts of the Libertarian Party. Back in 2001 a Libertarian explained to be me the Libertarian Party's position on minimum wage. It changed the way that I see it and inspired me to pay more attention to the subject.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL So you are assuming that employees do nothing to make a business function and that companies employ workers purely out of the goodness of their hearts. When wages go up they run out of goodness and lay people off. What a bunch of hooey.
    Nope. I was explaining the logic used when people claim that minimum wage will increase unemployment. I wasn't assuming jack squat. Did you read this comment in the thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent
    Don't get pissed at me though. This is just the logic with a simplistic example.
    You probably didn't.

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