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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I could care less about how much the stockholders make and it is not determined only by profit either. Employee salaries as a % of operating costs have been steadily declining for 35 years. How long will workers take less and less while companies make more and more?


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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Exactly, very interesting view of liberalism, having no problem spending SOMEONE else's money. Why is it that liberals who believe in paying someone X dollars don't go into business and do just that? What gives the govt. the right to demand that the private sector pay an employee a specified wage? Let the market decide and let people rise to the level they are capable of achieving.

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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    According to 2012 Bureau of Labor statistics 3.6 million people made the federal minimum wage or below.

    A whopping 4.7% of the workforce, if you want to look at it that way.

    It's a political stunt. A "tug on the emotional heartstrings" designed to divert attention from the fact that a more robust economy solves our problems much more effectively. But hey, why spend your efforts trying to actually improve things when token gestures that appeal to emotion are so much easier.
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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, very interesting view of liberalism, having no problem spending SOMEONE else's money. Why is it that liberals who believe in paying someone X dollars don't go into business and do just that? What gives the govt. the right to demand that the private sector pay an employee a specified wage? Let the market decide and let people rise to the level they are capable of achieving.
    Increasing the federal MW level poses a tricky political problem; if one argues that it needs to rise based on inflation then all of the "safety net" benefits (based on the federal poverty level) and SS must rise as well - negating the argument that it would decrease those costs.
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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    The purpose of raising the federal min wage is to keep in line with inflation, not to make a living wage. I doubt inflation since 2009 is justified to the tune of $10.10 an hour though.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I could care less about how much the stockholders make and it is not determined only by profit either. Employee salaries as a % of operating costs have been steadily declining for 35 years. How long will workers take less and less while companies make more and more?


    Name for me a major company with shareholders that pay minimum wage to their employees and where do benefits fit into the pay structure in your world? Why do you care what some company makes in profits, pays in taxes? don't you choose where to spend your money? Why would you purchase goods and services from a company that you know or probably as you show don't know pays minimum wage?

    What liberals don't understand is that when you mandate a particular wage you set a minimum wage for people as well as hurt small businesses which actually drives the economy. You see big profits and that is a red flag for you when the reality is those large profits are from companies who don't pay minimum wages.
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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The purpose of raising the federal min wage is to keep in line with inflation, not to make a living wage. I doubt inflation since 2009 is justified to the tune of $10.10 an hour though.
    Stop telling a private business with their own money invested what to pay their employees and create a demand like has been created in North Dakota where minimum wage is irrelevant. Create a market based wage that creates more demand than supply and wages will rise significantly.

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You're telling me that a dollar in costs takes more than a dollar to cover.
    Yes, I'm telling you that in order to cover a dollar of additional cost, it takes more than a dollar of revenue.

    This concept is as fundamental as breath is to life. However, for some reason, I'm not surprised it's foreign to so many Liberal/Progressives.

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    Re: Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    According to 2012 Bureau of Labor statistics 3.6 million people made the federal minimum wage or below.

    A whopping 4.7% of the workforce, if you want to look at it that way.

    It's a political stunt. A "tug on the emotional heartstrings" designed to divert attention from the fact that a more robust economy solves our problems much more effectively. But hey, why spend your efforts trying to actually improve things when token gestures that appeal to emotion are so much easier.
    Just because I am curious, can that be broken down even further? What percentage of that 3.6 millioin are just kids working through HS and college? What percentage are married to a spouse that makes a good living? What percentage are single parents?

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    Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, I'm telling you that in order to cover a dollar of additional cost, it takes more than a dollar of revenue.

    This concept is as fundamental as breath is to life. However, for some reason, I'm not surprised it's foreign to so many Liberal/Progressives.
    I have thought for years that politicians must think money grows on trees. Damned if they weren't right after all! : There is a Money Tree Plant [I]Crassula OvataI] that grows in Asia...sort of like a bonsai tree with little flowers. We just live on the wrong side of the globe, ocean. They grow wild in China - no wonder they always have money to lend us! Maybe millions of those plants could be imported and planted in DC...and think of the relief taxpayers would feel when they know that they can just walk outside their door and pick enough leaves to buy that new car! It boggles the mind...

    Greetings, ocean515.

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