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    Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

    Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap - NBC News

    Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, a target of U.S. sanctions sparked by the Ukraine crisis, said Tuesday that those sanctions would boomerang against America's space effort and essentially told NASA to take a flying leap ... on a trampoline.
    So much for the space station crew. The US no longer has a spacecraft to use for supplies and changing crews. Another reason not to put one's eggs all in one basket.

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

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    Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap - NBC News



    So much for the space station crew. The US no longer has a spacecraft to use for supplies and changing crews. Another reason not to put one's eggs all in one basket.
    So thankfully for NASA... it has alternatives.
    SpaceX is one of them and it might be cheaper than what is today.
    The other is the ESA which has a space flight program and sends supplies to space.
    The other is JASA -> Japanesse space agency.

    So it's not a big deal. Maybe SpaceX is the only cheaper alternative and probably also, at this point, the least reliable... but there are alternatives. So no biggie from a technical standpoint.

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

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    So much for the space station crew. The US no longer has a spacecraft to use for supplies and changing crews. Another reason not to put one's eggs all in one basket.
    Ever heard of SPACE X?

    "CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — A privately owned rocket blasted off Sunday night on the first of a dozen space station supply missions under a mega-contract with NASA.

    The California-based SpaceX launched its unmanned Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral. Aboard the rocket was SpaceX’s Dragon capsule, holding 1,000 pounds of cargo, including chocolate-vanilla swirl ice cream for the three station residents.





    This is the first Dragon launch under a $1.6 billion contract between SpaceX and NASA. The contract calls for 12 resupply missions."

    SpaceX Dragon on its way to space station - Nation - The Boston Globe

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

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    Ever heard of SPACE X?

    "CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — A privately owned rocket blasted off Sunday night on the first of a dozen space station supply missions under a mega-contract with NASA.

    The California-based SpaceX launched its unmanned Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral. Aboard the rocket was SpaceX’s Dragon capsule, holding 1,000 pounds of cargo, including chocolate-vanilla swirl ice cream for the three station residents.





    This is the first Dragon launch under a $1.6 billion contract between SpaceX and NASA. The contract calls for 12 resupply missions."

    SpaceX Dragon on its way to space station - Nation - The Boston Globe
    Oh, no I hadn't. thanks! But, can it bring American crew members back to earf?

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

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    Oh, no I hadn't. thanks! But, can it bring American crew members back to earf?
    In a pinch...yes, though Spaceship One is more likely.

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    In a pinch...yes, though Spaceship One is more likely.
    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Oh, no I hadn't. thanks! But, can it bring American crew members back to earf?
    Untested.

    SpaceX hasn't flown a crew mission to the orbit just unmanned supply transports to the ISS. But there were 4 of them.

    The only institutions to get crew members to and from the ISS have been governmental institions like NASA, Roscosmos, ESA and I think JASA had a few.

    And SpaceX won't have its first crew mission until next year. It's a viable candidate for supply transportation to the ISS but not for sending or retrieving crew. And there are 2-3 such missions needed until 2015 because cosmonauts can stay just 6 months at a time. That's why I said, it's going to be either NASA rebuilding it's manned space program or getting Europe or Japan to do it. Which is again, doable.

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    In a pinch...yes, though Spaceship One is more likely.
    It would need some serious modification to dock with the ISS, unless astronauts could tether to both and do a spacewalk.
    http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/spaceshipone-2.jpg

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    Re: Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    So thankfully for NASA... it has alternatives.
    SpaceX is one of them and it might be cheaper than what is today.
    The other is the ESA which has a space flight program and sends supplies to space.
    The other is JASA -> Japanesse space agency.

    So it's not a big deal. Maybe SpaceX is the only cheaper alternative and probably also, at this point, the least reliable... but there are alternatives. So no biggie from a technical standpoint.
    Neither the ESA nor JAXA are capable of manned flight. They rely on either the U.S. or Russia to do all their manned space flights. SpaceX is looking at manned missions, but it will probably be a few years before they become especially reliable on that point. NASA, the ESA, and JAXA, can always go supplicate themselves before China I suppose.

    China: Unlike the cruel Russia, who demanded you stand. I require only that you kneel.
    NASA: Well, okay massa China, we doin' what ya' say!
    ESA: Oui Oui Empereur des Français!
    JAXA: Arigato gozaimasu tono!
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