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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

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    Why would anyone have the right to welfare?
    Well apparently a whole lot of people support Bundy's right to have his business supported by the government.


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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well apparently a whole lot of people support Bundy's right to have his business supported by the government.
    That's a flat out lie. From what I see, people are saying he was wrong for not paying, but that the government was heavy handed and over reacted.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

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    It's a silly question. I won't dignify it.
    Your concession by default is accepted.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

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    Your concession by default is accepted.
    If it makes you feel smarter by typing that whatever...rational people know better...
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If it makes you feel smarter by typing that whatever...rational people know better...
    That's nice.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's a flat out lie. From what I see, people are saying he was wrong for not paying, but that the government was heavy handed and over reacted.
    So they're showing up with guns to defend him from the government being heavy handed? Geez, can we expect them to do so in all cases where the government is being heavy handed?


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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you don't really have proof that any checkpoints were set up.
    I just saw this thread now and that's exactly what I was thinking.

    We can take infrared pictures from space of terrorists in caves halfway around the world and the only evidence we have of a.) actual checkpoints, b.) armed checkpoints, or c.) forcible ("at gunpoint") stops at checkpoints are allegations, and when you look to the initial source of the allegations there isn't even a claim to b.) or c.).

    Yeah, lets call out the National Guard and kill people on the weight of a freshman Representative's fairly benign claims...
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So they're showing up with guns to defend him from the government being heavy handed? Geez, can we expect them to do so in all cases where the government is being heavy handed?
    Probably not..but that doesn't a make it any less valid.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I just saw this thread now and that's exactly what I was thinking.

    We can take infrared pictures from space of terrorists in caves halfway around the world and the only evidence we have of a.) actual checkpoints, b.) armed checkpoints, or c.) forcible stops at checkpoints are allegations, and when you look to the initial source of the allegations there isn't even a claim to b.) or c.).

    Yeah, lets call out the National Guard and kill people on the weight of a freshman Representatives fairly benign claims...
    Exactly!!! Thank you
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I just saw this thread now and that's exactly what I was thinking.

    We can take infrared pictures from space of terrorists in caves halfway around the world and the only evidence we have of a.) actual checkpoints, b.) armed checkpoints, or c.) forcible ("at gunpoint") stops at checkpoints are allegations, and when you look to the initial source of the allegations there isn't even a claim to b.) or c.).

    Yeah, lets call out the National Guard and kill people on the weight of a freshman Representative's fairly benign claims...
    Local reporters have a little bit of backup for their "allegations"
    I-Team: Police say Bundy ranch protesters not off the hook - 8 News NOW

    LAS VEGAS -- Metro Police officers who were on the front lines of a recent showdown near the Bundy ranch in Bunkerville say they feared for their lives.

    At least some of the militia members who pointed weapons at police officers during the confrontation may have wanted a violent outcome and tried to incite one.

    In exclusive interviews with the 8 News NOW I-Team, officers who were on the scene shared their thoughts and fears, and they say it is not over.

    "These guys with rifles, keep them calm," was Clark County Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo's request to one of Bundy's sons the day of the confrontation.

    Lombardo's top priority was to prevent a spark that might set off a bloody firefight.

    "There was a possibility of somebody just having an accidental discharge causing a blood bath, because the individuals that were showing up, the militia quote unquote, were armed to the teeth," Lombardo said.
    <snip>
    Some of them didn't need much to get riled. Their hostility toward government was on full display. A few equate the BLM with Nazis.

    "That bunch, the SS squad or something to do with Hitler, shouldn't have guns there aimed at the people," one man at the showdown said.

    They were equally hostile to journalists covering the story. Pistol-packing militia men have blocked 8 News NOW's access to public roads. Some poured lighter fluid around our news vehicle while others got physical.
    Another little item I found while Googling that relates to comments about how Bundy should be paying the state of Nevada instead of the BLM for grazing rights. Don't know if that would work to well with Mr Bundy. Nevada charges between $12 and $14 per AUM (animal unit per month), the BLM charges $1.35 AUM and the average price east of the Rockies approaches $16 AUM
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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