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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Okay - I laughed at Bundy before . . . but this ****'s just too ****ed up. I'm not laughing now.

    He's a total douche.



    Why are they harassing their fellow citizens?
    Well for one thing Aunt Spiker, the douchebags are from out of state, not from Nevada, the militia wouldn't know a local dog if it bit one in the arse. Which is probably the reasoning for them stopping people and asking them questions like the Chicago cops used to do in the 1950's and 1960's, who are you? where are you from? where are you going? who is in the car with you? who do you know from this area?

    Some of those questions I suggested they asked might be unconstitutional for even a law enforcement officer to even think about asking, falls under civil rights too. What gives those people the right to ask people anything?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Okay - I laughed at Bundy before . . . but this ****'s just too ****ed up. I'm not laughing now.

    He's a total douche.



    Why are they harassing their fellow citizens?
    How do you know that they are? Because Horsford says that a guy that knows a guy said they were? Give me a break.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, they disagree with federal control of the land. That is not wrong.
    It's not wrong to disagree with something in principle. Violating the law in the process is a different story. There's nothing unjust whatsoever about paying fees for the usage of another's property.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Denouncing people who go on welfare without a right to do so? Sure. Who do you know has bypassed the system and decided they'll simply show up without proper procedure to collect a check?
    Why would one have a right to welfare?
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    It's not wrong to disagree with something in principle. Violating the law in the process is a different story. There's nothing unjust whatsoever about paying fees for the usage of another's property.
    Two things, it's not "another's" property, it's public land. The other is that history is rife with instances of disobeying unjust laws to the point that the law is changed.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by raphaelschild View Post
    I'm jumping in on this thread late, and perhaps someone has already pointed this out, but the claims of militia creating checkpoints, demanding papers etc is patently FALSE. How do I know this? Because I speak with the Bundy's personally every few days and also receive their updates.
    I am a member of one of the militias that was represented at the ranch.

    Now I ask you this: If the government came to your neighborhood and explained that the land your house sits on is no longer yours (or perhaps was never) and the court system failed to help you AND then a SWAT team showed up to evict you...what would you do? This is not a far-fetched scenario, my friends. It is happening all over the country.

    Anyone who still believes the government is here to help and protect them REALLY needs to wake up.
    Indeed it is happening all over the country. There are several ranches in Texas facing the same issue. One day the Feds show up and tell them that the lands their family own, have owned for decades, isn't theirs.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Two things, it's not "another's" property, it's public land. The other is that history is rife with instances of disobeying unjust laws to the point that the law is changed.
    How many checkpoints were set up by MLK?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why would one have a right to welfare?
    If you have all the paperwork, are eligible and meet all requisites... why wouldn't you have a right to it? This is all in contrast to someone like Bundy who under no circumstance has a right to graze off land that doesn't belong to him.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Two things, it's not "another's" property, it's public land. The other is that history is rife with instances of disobeying unjust laws to the point that the law is changed.
    Your understanding of public land is weak. The Capitol Building is on public land. Can you set up a tend in it if you so wish and live inside the building? Nope.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    How many checkpoints were set up by MLK?
    How many checkpoints were set up here..I haven't seen proof of any.
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