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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because Bundy has been giving Caesar his due?
    No, Bundy has not. He has been using a public recesource while refusing to pay for it.

    On a broad average, very few of the tax protesters types are from the south. Most have been from the far west, or upper midwest. This does not mean that southereners like paying taxes or paying user fees. My hypothesis is that one of the reasons why southereners are not prone to violently resist paying taxes or user fees is because they tend to be religously conservative and Christianity states that what is owed to ceaser should be give to him.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    And the evidence for this is?
    Analysis of the situation leading up to the Declaration of Independance.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

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    Analysis of the situation leading up to the Declaration of Independance.
    What analysis?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    What analysis?
    I thought you said you were perfectly familiar with US history.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

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    I thought you said you were perfectly familiar with US history.
    What analysis?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    People are also approved every single day. Are you willing to go on record denouncing welfare?
    Denouncing people who go on welfare without a right to do so? Sure. Who do you know has bypassed the system and decided they'll simply show up without proper procedure to collect a check?
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Okay - I laughed at Bundy before . . . but this ****'s just too ****ed up. I'm not laughing now.

    He's a total douche.

    According to Horsford, his constituents say the militia have set up checkpoints where residents must prove they live in the area before they are allowed to pass and have set up a "persistent presence" along federal highways, and state and county roads. They also claim some have established an armed presence in the community.

    Horsford told the sheriff that the militia are making people feel unsafe.
    Why are they harassing their fellow citizens?
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Concerns growing about militia members at Bundy ranch - 8 News NOW

    So like I said in other topics about this developing story, its gone beyond the unpaid fees for gazing on Federal land and turned into a question of whether or not we are going to allow an active insurgency to operate within this country.

    Also, is it more ironic or sad that these folks who claim to want freedom are acting in exactly the manner of an authoritarian?



    I'm just going to say that it's both ironic and sad.




    President Obama made some comments about all this: Obama Teaches Us All A Lesson About Cliven Bundy

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    I'm jumping in on this thread late, and perhaps someone has already pointed this out, but the claims of militia creating checkpoints, demanding papers etc is patently FALSE. How do I know this? Because I speak with the Bundy's personally every few days and also receive their updates.
    I am a member of one of the militias that was represented at the ranch.

    Now I ask you this: If the government came to your neighborhood and explained that the land your house sits on is no longer yours (or perhaps was never) and the court system failed to help you AND then a SWAT team showed up to evict you...what would you do? This is not a far-fetched scenario, my friends. It is happening all over the country.

    Anyone who still believes the government is here to help and protect them REALLY needs to wake up.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    I have read a little bit about this issue and it seems that he was fine with paying fee's to use federal land until it was no longer profitable to do so. Once they raised the fee's to the point where it started cutting into his profit, he all the sudden had a problem with it. Now all the sudden he's a constitutionalist.....Convenient huh? Paid fee's for decades, and all the sudden..... This guy is full of bull****. Sad thing is, he is putting people in harms way. Now he's got malicia on board who just want to drink some good moonshine and point guns at stuff in the woods out with him.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
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