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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Theft.
    bundy doesn't own the land.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh they are going to get their elected officials to respond alright, though I doubt they are going to like the end result of it.
    Perhaps.

    No, they are not just protesting. And go right ahead and I will call you out on your hypocrisy each and every time for it when you bring it up.

    You're already a hypocrite because you support this protesting but not OWS.
    I didn't oppose OWS, in the sense that they didn't have a right to do it. Everyone has a right to protest in this country. Make something else up now.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    bundy doesn't own the land.
    I didn't say he did.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Theft.
    Are you saying the government doesn't have the right to impose taxes?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    The cartoon is not accurate at all:

    - First the cross on the holster conveys the impression that the militia are all christian inspired. The reality is that many, perhaps most, are secular
    -The CSA battle flag? Most and perhaps nearly all of the militia types at the ranch were not southereners.

    Rather, the opposite is true. The South's religous heritiage tends to support "giving to ceaser what is ceaser's". That does not mean that Bundy does not have support in the south, but I bet the supporters are fewer in proportion to the west and say, Michigan. In the end, the South has never been a hot bed of support for tax evaders.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Are you saying the government doesn't have the right to impose taxes?
    Not at all. I'm saying that it must be done with the consent of the people.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    This is why we have the rule of law. You let someone get away with not paying grazing fees because they have guns trained against you and you open the door for all kinds of ****.

    You don't really need to be a poli sci major to figure that one out.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Not at all. I'm saying that it must be done with the consent of the people.
    All of the people? Some of the people? Most of the people?

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The idea that someone doesn't have a right to "freeload" on unused, public land that serves no other purpose is inconsistent with the idea that one has the right to "freeload" on American society for subsistence simply for living in the country.
    You don't have a right to welfare either. People are denied welfare benefits every single day.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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