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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    OR in other words, "I refuse to watch/listen/read anything from a source that acts in opposition to my personal political views." OK, Got it.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you get your views from anything other than far left sites?
    Does that invalidate what this guy actually said, on video in front of the other militia folk? I read from all sides, left and right, I listen to right and left radio and overseas. If I find something interesting, I share it. Care to comment on what this guy is saying to incite the folks at the ranch?
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Lol, I just said: FEDERALISM (division of power).
    Would he have a right to graze on this land if the land belonged the to the state?
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Would he have a right to graze on this land if the land belonged the to the state?
    Don't know. I was simply rebutting your snarky remark about the 'usual people' not being here defend 'this guy'. The reason being that many of we usual people don't care to play games demonizing people and making things personal. I wish very liberal people would act the same and have a civil conversation about ideas instead of making everything personal and insulting.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Don't know. I was simply rebutting your snarky remark about the 'usual people' not being here defend 'this guy'. The reason being that many of we usual people don't care to play games demonizing people and making things personal. I wish very liberal people would act the same and have a civil conversation about ideas instead of making everything personal and insulting.
    Calling racists out for what they are is not demonizing.

    It's strange that many people (among Bundy supporters) think 'free speech' means 'freedom from consequences'.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    THat would be murder dude, knowingly and intentionally planning to create a situation where you can kill someone under a specific circumstance is pre-meditated murder.
    No, it's war.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No, it's war.
    No its murder, you don't have the legal authority to declare war or to act in war without legal and lawful direction.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No its murder, you don't have the legal authority to declare war or to act in war without legal and lawful direction.
    Let's talk about "legal authority" after this 'militia' tells us which Governor called them to muster, which National Guard battalion they're operating under, who their commissioned commanding officer is, and publishes copies of their mission orders.

    Until then, they're a street gang, not militia.

    If they can show the above legal authorities, then we can start listing their war crimes under Geneva Convention treaty, which at this point are minor in severity but numerous in frequency; the use of children as human shields being the first.

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    And of-course, this is all besides the fact that they're wrong on the general issue to begin with, but the BLM is being retarded also, so it's a zero sum gain.
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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Let's talk about "legal authority" after this 'militia' tells us which Governor called them to muster, which National Guard battalion they're operating under, who their commissioned commanding officer is, and publishes copies of their mission orders.

    Until then, they're a street gang, not militia.

    If they can show the above legal authorities, then we can start listing their war crimes under Geneva Convention treaty, which at this point are minor in severity but numerous in frequency; the use of children as human shields being the first.
    Other people breaking the law doesn't give you the right to break the law. So like I said, you have no legal authority to take action against them at this time.

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    Re: Militia around Bundy Ranch set up checkpoints, demand papers, control taffic flow

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Other people breaking the law doesn't give you the right to break the law. So like I said, you have no legal authority to take action against them at this time.
    I wouldn't be braking the law. Putting yourself out there so that the enemy acts first, thus giving you legal excuse, is 100% Army tactics, and it works. This 'milita' has no authority to stop me in the first place, so I should be able to drive busloads of armed people around all day long without 'militia' interference. The moment they stopped me, they don ****ed up.

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    If these people were taking up arms under the argument that the BLM is not a pera-military unit, like law enforcement, and thus shouldn't be using SWAT teams regardless of how wrong Bundy may be, I would be on their side, even though imo Bundy himself is in the wrong for not paying the fees.

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