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This goes well beyond "conniving", and not all politicians are like Barry Obama. There are many with honor.

With the WH trying to keep everything a secret it is hard to know what went on but there is already enough to know that these 4 Americans died alone, though help was available, and that the WH lied.



The thinking that there should not be an investigation at all seems counter productive.

Your point is well made, no one knows what's there not only because the White has been covering up, failing to co-operate a la Watergate/Nixon but has openly lied on several points. That alone should be reason enough to take a look.

The issue is not the four deaths per ce, nor the CIA's reputation, which is so solid to begin with, but the integrity of government. The president has been caught lying on Obamacare, on foreign policy and here, an idiot story that the international press exposed a week before it surfaced in the US.

If you can't trust their word on those things, then what can you trust them on. Based on his serial lies, what world leader can trust him? Ever wonder why the "national community" ran the other way on Syria?

Might it be they were the same "international community" that backed his Libya attack and got smeared by this? Do you not think that the leaders of France, Italy, Greece and Canada aren't taking some flack for being part of what now looks to be an arms deal?

Fine, Obama can hide from an investigation to protect his personal reputation, but what is it doing for the country?
 
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White House: GOP fabricated leaked Benghazi email | TheHill
It's sad when elected officials fabricate stories for political gain.

What is sad is that the most eager defender of the lies and corruption continues to introduce straw man arguments, Bert Lahr has risen!

First we're on about riots and"demonstrations" neither of which have anything to do with this file OTHER THAN the Obama administration manufactured the story to cover up something. The we have a whole hay wagon load with some idiocy about a demonstration in CAIRO several months before as somehow exonerating the Carney, Obama and Clinton cabal from their deliberate falsehoods.

Now we have something about the White House alleging some other emails have been "doctored" as somehow proof that there should never be any investigation into anything Obama has even done, despite the fact he is the "Lying President' with honey wagons loaded to the brim.

One, you have to stay on topic to be respected.

Two you have to site CREDIBLE sources and Obama, Clinton, Carney, Kerry, Pelosi, Ried and the entire Democratic caucus does not, in any way qualify.

So what are you doing here?
 
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How could they have had "full and complete knowledge" less than a week after the attack, before any investigation?

And I really am not sure what the right wing is trying to prove here. If it's that WH officials coordinated talking points early after an incident and 'spun' those talking points in a way favorable to the administration, then goodness, that's only happened..... after nearly every major event, for all of time in any administration in any country, ever. Politicians playing politics! Whoocoodanode???!!!!

Sure, it's legitimate to call them out on their bullcrap, but goodness, that's just NOT a YEARS long controversy.

We the people should never let our elected leaders off the hook for something this serious and this dishonest just because time has passed. To do so gives them that much more incentive to lie in the first place and then refuse to relinquish any evidence for awhile so that when it does surface their adoring lapdogs will shrug and say, "Oh that's old news. The opposition is just digging it up to smear our hero. . .yadda yadda."

Now testimony by Gen. Carter Ham, head of AFRICOM at the time of attack, before the House Committee on Armed Services in June 2013 suggests that Defense officials did not raise the prospect of an out-of-control demonstration and immediately deemed the incident an attack.

Ham, whose partially redacted transcript was declassified by the House on Monday, said at the 2013 hearing that he was alerted to the incident 15 minutes after it erupted at 9:42 p.m. Libya Time (3:42 p.m. EST) on Sep. 11, 2012. . . . .

. . . . He describes how as soon as AFRICOM learned of the attack, the command control repositioned a drone to the consulate to gather intelligence on the ground movements. The unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was ordered to be diverted to the Benghazi site at 9:59 p.m. Libya Time, 17 minutes after the attack.

According to the timeline, at 10:32 p.m. Libya Time, Ham briefed then Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, before they traveled to the White House for a pre-scheduled meeting with Obama, during which they briefed Obama on the situation.

Read more: Pentagon labeled Benghazi a terrorist attack as Obama administration wavered: newly declassified testimony - NY Daily News
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So the administration sends Susan Rice out to five different television stories KNOWING she is telling a flat out lie and as much as a week later Obama was still repeating the same lie.

And Hillary Clinton's official initial statement even though she had to have been in on the initial briefings. If she chose not to attend those briefings or to be briefed on them, she should have been fired on the spot.

Clinton made the Obama administration's first official comment on the attack six hours after it commenced and while it was continuing.
The statement was headlined "Statement on the attack on Benghazi" and it contained this graph:
"Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

To be followed much later in her Senate testimony that will almost surely--or should--come back to haunt her if she does run for President:

"We had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or because of guys out for a walk one night and decided to go kill some Americans? At this point what difference does it make, Senator?" Clinton said at a tense Senate hearing in January 2013.

What difference does it make? How much are the adoring worshippers of Obama and all he stands for willing to be lied to, manipulated, fooled, and hoodwinked by those who don't want those worshippers to know the truth about much of anything and who urge those worshippers to ridicule, object to, denigrate, and accuse any who demand truth.

 
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The CIA was responsible for security and Stevens himself turned down offers of additional men because of that. The CIA failed and somehow that is a plot? When have they not failed lately? Bush giving out those "Medals of Failure" and raises to the losers for failing to stop 911 have poisoned it. That embarrassment, Petreus was also involved, need I say more?

CIA is never responsible for the security of any Ambassador, Embassy or Consulate. That is the role of the Department of State's Bureau of Diplomatic Security.:peace
 
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Anyone who compares this to Watergate reveals themselves to be a hopeless partisan, or knows really nothing about the Watergate scandal and can't take 10 minutes to look it up.

If you want to compare Benghazi to Watergate, the crime must be whatever the CIA was doing in those outposts - something we still don't really know - and the various descriptions of motive efforts to hide those crimes. But that's not what you right wingers focus on. Have there been ANY hearings demanding to know what we were doing there, calling St. David to the stand, threatening him with contempt unless he explains what his guys were doing that got our ambassador killed? No. All we know is we weren't attacked over a video (supposedly), but no one seems to give a damn the real reason why. Heck, all Obama had to do, apparently, was just call this random terrorism and he'd have been fine. We're used to swallowing that BS without a second thought....

That's why the fact the right wing ignores Petraeus is so telling. If there is a scandal, it's in what we were doing. But the guy directing what we were doing there, the DCI, doesn't get even a nod from you guys.


Then I suggest you look it up...I lived through the time....I remember watching the hearings...Problem with people like you Jasper is that instead of looking at the corruption within this current administration, you want to pretend that they can do no wrong.

I too would like to know what Stevens was doing there that night...And what the meeting between him and the Turk was about...Shipping arms to Syrian rebels through Turkey maybe? Trying to rake in the arms that Obama gave to AQ to overthrow Qaddafi? Either way it was a failed foreign policy of THIS administration that got Stevens killed, and instead of telling the truth about what happened during an election campaign, Obama, and his inner circle of liars, and criminally negligent boobs they wanted to promote a "normalization" in the region...It got people killed, and the didn't respond other than to look at how they could do spin control while the attack was ongoing.....Sickening....

You accept that? It was 9/11 for God's sake....A 10 year old could have told them they better ramp up the security....
 
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That response was an ad hoc reaction by those on the scene. They were not in charge of the Consulate and had no responsibility for its security.:peace

In fact, Ty Woods' father says that Woods was told on numerous occasions to 'stand down' and NOT aid....Why, and by whom?
 
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In fact, Ty Woods' father says that Woods was told on numerous occasions to 'stand down' and NOT aid....Why, and by whom?

They had no security responsibility and (although certain individuals had extensive training and experience) they were not a response force trained as a unit. My suspicion is that there was reluctance to go all in with such an ad hoc venture.:peace
 
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They had no security responsibility and (although certain individuals had extensive training and experience) they were not a response force trained as a unit. My suspicion is that there was reluctance to go all in with such an ad hoc venture.:peace

Yeah...But that Woods was possibly told NOT to help, I think shows a real shift in how we watch our peoples backs in this administration.
 
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The White House knew the attack was not a reaction to a video or a protest and that has been testified to several times. Furthermore the White House knew there had been no protest going on about ANYTHING at the embassy prior to the attack. Benghazi Timeline

So again, your regurgitation of the contortions in the story that have come from the White House are your apparently wishful speculation. As well as ignoring and dismissing everything that contradicts the contortions. As regards what Rhodes in his job at the White House was directing Rice to say where is that in the email you STILL are claiming does not say what I'm referring to? You must mean aside from the subject of the email? About the PREP call made to Rice? "RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 pm ET." As you insinuated to another poster when you called him out, but before you opted not to backup your "call out" with anything, it is about credibility. At this point you have now thrice proven to me you have none. You do appear to have faith in the administration but then these repeated knee jerk dismissals of yours are pretty explanatory. You keep leaping without thinking about what I said and what is in the emails that you clearly somehow managed to either miss or just did not bother to actually read.

Seems you and Jay Carney have something in common, neither of you can discern what the emails are about or contain in them. The poor man was besieged and then tried something really creative, he claimed these newly released WH emails...weren't even about Benghazi!:lamo



In any case what I'd like to see has already been stated. Trying to not too creatively change what I did say to I wanted investigation of every talking point. If I did it certainly would not be by the (any) administration investigating itself. :doh


Were there protests in Cairo on 911?
 
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Were there protests in Cairo on 911?
As well as a couple other places. The one this came from was a real hoot!
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Heya Grim. :2wave: Well and the other reason why it will be carried until 2016.


In Libya: Why the Benghazi Investigation Is Going Nowhere......

Four months after a brutal assault on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi killed the ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, politicians in Washington are still railing over how diplomats were left vulnerable to attack. Yet the political furor, which now threatens to hold up President Obama’s national-security nominations, stands in stark contrast to the response in Libya itself. There, Libyans say, the investigation is nonoperational, if not effectively dead, with witnesses too fearful to talk and key police officers targeted for violent retribution. “There is no Libyan investigation. No, no, no,” says Mohamed Buisier, a political activist in Benghazi, who returned home in 2011 after decades in the U.S. “There is not even a will to investigate anything. Even for us civilians, it is very dangerous if you talk about this subject.”

Whoever knows differently is for now not talking. And in fact, they might be dead or missing. Last week masked men surrounded the car of Benghazi’s chief of criminal investigations, Captain Abdelsalam al-Mahdawi, while he stopped at a traffic light and abducted him; he has not been seen since. His kidnapping came less than two months after Benghazi’s police chief, Faraj el-Drissi, was murdered in his Benghazi home and just weeks after armed men attempted to break into a jail in order to free the suspects in custody for el-Drissi’s murder.

Beset by criminality and awash with weapons, Benghazi is a dangerous place, and police officers like al-Mahdawi and el-Drissi had full dockets. But both men had the attack on the U.S. compound in common. “Any person who touches this file is disappearing into thin air,” says Rami el-Obeidi, a former intelligence chief for the rebels’ National Transitional Council during the 2011 revolution, who has attempted to probe the attack on his own time but has faced the frustrations of confusing and missing evidence. “Who’s leading the investigation now? No one. What’s the progress? Nothing,” he said by phone. “Anyone who has had a hand in the investigation has been killed or abducted or threatened.”

The stymied investigation seems a far cry from the assurances from Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, immediately after the attack, that the culprits would be caught. A somber Obama told White House reporters the morning after the attack, “Make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.”.....snip~

Benghazi Investigation Holding Up Obama, Going Nowhere in Libya | TIME.com

Yet, 5 days later Susan Rice was calling the TNC President a Liar. Wonder what their definition of working with them.....exactly is?
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I would go directly after Obama on this......as in "yo" Mope. Whats up with this? Then do it in front of a camera and lets see if he will smile his **** eating grin then.

Awesome post! This is what Hannity should be talking about. That's not allowed though. The devil's always in the details.
 
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Awesome post! This is what Hannity should be talking about. That's not allowed though. The devil's always in the details.
Can't stand Hannity, so if he does talk about it I'll pass. But that sign from the 911 protest about building 7 sure is a hoot.:lol:
 
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Hannity has his good points IMO, but very few known people in the media are talking about it at all. They got the viewers.

Psssst, not interested in the debunked and frankly disjointed 911 troofer stuff. Reminds me of the Obama berf certificate troofer stuff.:2wave:
 
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Do you have a map? Go get it.

Got it, the map that is. Libya and Egypt are different countries.

 
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The lies are coming from the Fox News Channel, they're the ones promoting this crap. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves using the death of four dead men for political gain. What sick bastards.

You poor kid......its hard knowing Barack and Hillary lied to you isn't it?
 
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Except that there's nothing false in the email.

Unfortunately for the "nothing to see here crowd", truth is found (in part) in this email. The lies have already been told, now the truth is surfacing. Ben Rhodes directed the distribution of a fabricated cover story to obscure an inept foreign policy coming out of the state department.
 
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They (government officials) went on TV and claimed a stupid youtube video caused the attack in Benghazi. They were protecting their phony President. No evidence existed to come to such stupid conclusions.

Yet they went to extraordinary lengths to pretend that it was caused by a video.

What cowardly liars!
 
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Unfortunately for the "nothing to see here crowd", truth is found (in part) in this email. The lies have already been told, now the truth is surfacing. Ben Rhodes directed the distribution of a fabricated cover story to obscure an inept foreign policy coming out of the state department.

And Ben Rhodes was a Communications Aide explaining what went on in Benghazi! It was a political excuse, not a serious response from the campaigning President, The Sec of State, or any higher official in the Administration. They told the public what they felt might be believed unti after the election was over.

Rhodes got his reward by being promoted to National Security Adviser,
 
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You poor kid......its hard knowing Barack and Hillary lied to you isn't it?
All politicians lie at one point or another. I know at least neither Barack nor Hillary has ever tried to scarce me talking about Smoking guns and Mushrooms clouds.
 
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All politicians lie at one point or another. I know at least neither Barack nor Hillary has ever tried to scarce me talking about Smoking guns and Mushrooms clouds.

So for you the fact that Obama lies whenever his mouth is open is not a problem?
 
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So for you the fact that Obama lies whenever his mouth is open is not a problem?
Do you have a problem when somebody tries to scare you with talk of smoking guns and mushroom clouds?
 
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And Ben Rhodes was a Communications Aide explaining what went on in Benghazi! It was a political excuse, not a serious response from the campaigning President, The Sec of State, or any higher official in the Administration. They told the public what they felt might be believed unti after the election was over.

Rhodes got his reward by being promoted to National Security Adviser,

Now as Barack Obama stood before the UN two weeks after the fact telling the Video story, you have to ask: Did Ben Rhodes coach the lie to him too? or was he doing the bidding of the white-house in the first place? Obvious answer. Obama lied cia ops died... How petty and un-American to tell petty political lies in front of an international body, in the fashion of a third world tin pot dictator's propaganda team. Embarrassing.
 
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Yet they went to extraordinary lengths to pretend that it was caused by a video.

What cowardly liars!

Military intelligence official: 'We should have tried' to help Americans during Benghazi attack | Fox News

A top military intelligence official in Africa at the time of the Benghazi attacks testified Thursday that U.S. personnel "should have tried" to help Americans under fire on Sept. 11, 2012, in an unprecedented public statement from a leading military officer.

Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell, who at the time of the attacks was the intelligence director at AFRICOM, questioned the merits of the ongoing debate over whether U.S. military forces could have responded in time. Leading Pentagon and other military officials previously have argued that additional U.S. assets were not deployed to assist Americans under attack that night because they weren't close enough.


"The point is we should have tried," Lovell told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in his opening statement. "As another saying goes -- always move to the sound of the guns."

He later said the military "could have made a response of some sort." Lovell made clear repeatedly that the military was waiting for clearance from the State Department to intervene in Benghazi.

Lovell also sharply countered claims that the intelligence community and military initially thought this was a protest over an anti-Islam video gone awry. He said U.S. officials knew this was a "hostile action" from the outset, even though they didn't know how long the attack would last.

"This was no demonstration gone terribly awry," Lovell said. "The facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack."

Under questioning, he also said the Internet video was "briefly discussed" on the ground but "dismissed" as a motive shortly afterward. He said officials soon concluded that Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia was involved.

The testimony is significant, as it marks the latest effort to lift the curtain behind what happened during the night of the attack and the ensuing days. In a cryptic statement, Lovell cited the need for a "full forthcoming to the American people."

"I felt it was my duty to come forward," he said. "The circumstances of what occurred there in Benghazi that day need to be known."

The testimony comes two days after new emails were obtained and released by a watchdog group showing a top White House aide was involved in preparing then-U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances, where she pushed the narrative that protests over an Internet video were to blame.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., at the start of the hearing, ripped the administration over those emails, and accused it of deliberately hiding the documents after an earlier congressional subpoena.

"It is disturbing and perhaps criminal ... that documents like these were hidden by the Obama administration from Congress and the public alike," Issa said. He claimed the withholding of these documents is the worst transparency violation since at least the Nixon administration.

One email showed notes from White House adviser Ben Rhodes regarding a "prep call" with Rice; the notes discussed the Internet video as the cause. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed Wednesday that the "prep call" was only in reference to demonstrations elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa, and not Benghazi.
 
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