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Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:212]

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Sorry, you don't get to declare that as long as news about it keeps surfacing....You guys always approach these things the same way....

Watch at :50 forward....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW9Q1cm_Tnw

Since your video link is dead, and I don't know what it was in the first place, here's the report from Special Report that lays it all out:

 
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And not one link.

I think you missed the part where I said there have been too many lies for me to believe anyone from the left on this file.

Have a nice day

And you have none either, but to play along, here's a link about stand down orders.

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C4E16543-8F99-430C-BEBA-0045A6433426

It's from the majority report on Benghazi. There WAS a stand down order, but it was because 1) if that team had left Tripoli, they'd have passed planes carrying wounded already evacuated on their way to Tripoli, and the team had emergency first aid skills needed, and 2) the military chain of command decided that a small force was necessary to protect Tripoli in case those facilities were attacked. It's all in the GOP report, beginning page 22. There's much more, including direct testimony from senior military about how the planes would have crossed in the night, etc. but this should get you started.
 
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You're argument is that we have many diplomats die, so Benghazi is no big deal. That argument is stupid. Yes, "Ambassador" is spelled differently than "Diplomat." You might want to understand words before you use them. An Ambassador is a class higher in importance than the average diplomat. Only 8 US ambassadors have been killed in the line of duty in the entirety of US history, 2 of which were in plane crashes. There have been thousands of US ambassadors, many in some very dangerous places. A higher percentage of US presidents have been killed in the line of duty (4 out of 43) than US ambassadors.

Yes...that argument is stupid. Almost as stupid as making assumptions and placing words into the mouths of others.
 
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That's not in the emails. This was days after the attack - we didn't KNOW who, much less why, the CIA facilities were attacked. Early on it was blamed on at least three potential groups, and the FBI hadn't even made it on site yet to begin the investigation. We could GUESS, but we didn't KNOW anything about who or therefore why. I'm not sure we (the public) know WHY even now because the CIA activities were classified and I've never seen a description of what those classified activities were. Something important enough to draw the Ambassador to the facility despite it being unfortified, that much is clear, but beyond that it's speculation.

And "playing up the POTUS" strengths - this is politics, are you a bit surprised that politicians are political, or are naive enough to believe that this kind of talking point stuff hasn't happened since George Washington?

Just one more thing - someone mentioned the focus being on Hillary and Obama - that's fine. But it's odd, don't you think, that Petraeus is left out of all this? It was a CIA facility, doing CIA work, under State department cover. The dead included two directly on CIA payroll, but Petraeus didn't go to the memorial, to hide the CIA role. So given this, what was THE reason? You guys on the right tell us with certainty it was NOT the video - OK. So what was the motivation of a bunch of terrorists to plan that attack? Was it an act of terrorism, or more akin to an act of war, i.e. direct retaliation for what the CIA was doing at that facility? You all seem to KNOW a lot - so please explain.

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As you can see, you are talking utter rubbish. Either you are just truly ignorant about what is in the emails, or you are just comfortable lying about them despite what is in them. My comments about Rhodes list (including playing up the POTUS's strengths) are derived from the information in Rhodes emails. Your speculation is predicated upon the administration's contorted explanations. I'll take a full and thorough investigation, by anyone but the same administration being investigated, that holds everyone who is responsible accountable and that includes Petraeus. I have no faith that will EVER happen, arguments like yours (knee jerk defense and attempt to claim the material in the emails is NOT in the emails) are a solid example as to why. :doh

Lastly, the humor derived from a list that included playing up the "strengths" of President Obama as a response to what happened in Benghazi? Unintentionally funny to me and I bet most people at this point in 2014; whether you like it or not. You did not like the fact that what I was speaking about IS in the emails either. :roll:
 
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The failure has been proven. It was a grave mistake, but it is over. Time to move on which most Americans have done.

How is that when Obama says that he will bring those to justice who did this and hasn't? Moreover he sites he has an FBI investigation going on over in Libya. But now for some reason can't get any help with any investigating being done. See its those little details like that. Which leaves this all to keep on running.

There is a difference in manufacturing a scandal as Opposed to being caught up in one. The latter here is why Bo can't make it all go away.
 
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How is that when Obama says that he will bring those to justice who did this and hasn't? Moreover he sites he has an FBI investigation going on over in Libya. But now for some reason can't get any help with any investigating being done. See its those little details like that. Which leaves this all to keep on running.

There is a difference in manufacturing a scandal as Opposed to being caught up in one. The latter here is why Bo can't make it all go away.

The findings found no link to the WH, but those who want that will keep trying, but the majority have moved on.
 
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The findings found no link to the WH, but those who want that will keep trying, but the majority have moved on.

No, the findings found Obama changed his words after he was caught lying about the Anti Muslim video and deny that it was a planned attack, which he knew it was all along......then used the on going investigating of our Intel services as an excuse as to why things were changing on the ground.

Moreover.....then there is the Incompetence by State despite their excuses and changing of their stories, and failing to even understand what was taking place on that ground. Dereliction of Duty does need to be applied.

Then there is the issue of blurring the lines with the other incidents mentioned and the likes of Susan Rice and others at State.

Finally.....there is Hillary who admitted she didn't call back to check on her people after talking to Hicks. One of her own People.
 
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The findings found no link to the WH, but those who want that will keep trying, but the majority have moved on.

I guess you must enjoy being lied to by your president and his administration. I'm puzzled why you feel that this is acceptable. Care to shed any light on that?
 
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Just as previously thought, and expressed by ANYONE with eyes, and ears....


Lets see how Obama trys to lie his way out of this one,
 
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No, the findings found Obama changed his words after he was caught lying about the Anti Muslim video and deny that it was a planned attack, which he knew it was all along......then used the on going investigating of our Intel services as an excuse as to why things were changing on the ground.

Moreover.....then there is the Incompetence by State despite their excuses and changing of their stories, and failing to even understand what was taking place on that ground. Dereliction of Duty does need to be applied.

Then there is the issue of blurring the lines with the other incidents mentioned and the likes of Susan Rice and others at State.

Finally.....there is Hillary who admitted she didn't call back to check on her people after talking to Hicks. One of her own People.

It's f-----ing over!!!!!
 
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I guess you must enjoy being lied to by your president and his administration. I'm puzzled why you feel that this is acceptable. Care to shed any light on that?

When you shed light on how the WH was involved, from a reliable source.
 
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It's f-----ing over!!!!!

It aint over till its over.....and the Fat Lady hasn't even tuned up yet!!!!!
 
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As you can see, you are talking utter rubbish. Either you are just truly ignorant about what is in the emails, or you are just comfortable lying about them despite what is in them.

I responded to a direct assertion - I'll quote you again: "but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew."

Where is that in the email?

You've asserted again and again the attack was NOT in response to the video, but something else you won't or can't name, and despite other protests in the region...about the video. And you've asserted without proof they KNEW all this within days of the attack, despite interviews by BBC of protesters claiming it was....about the video, and before the actual investigation had even begun. But besides all this, what at that point did they KNOW? Did they know WHO? No, but they knew WHY? And if so, please tell me why they attacked the consulate? Was it terrorism, or was it in response to CIA spook activities run out of that consulate? And when did they KNOW this? When did you know this?


My comments about Rhodes list (including playing up the POTUS's strengths) are derived from the information in Rhodes emails. Your speculation is predicated upon the administration's contorted explanations. I'll take a full and thorough investigation, by anyone but the same administration being investigated, that holds everyone who is responsible accountable and that includes Petraeus. I have no faith that will EVER happen, arguments like yours (knee jerk defense and attempt to claim the material in the emails is NOT in the emails) are a solid example as to why.

You want MORE investigation about very early talking points? Give me a break. This is why most of the rest of us moved on long ago from Benghazi. The entire scandal has been reduced to very early explanations by the WH about WHY some terrorists, unknown at that time, attacked us. These talking points were signed off on by everyone involved, CIA, FBI, State and WH. But apparently this is a scandal bigger than Iran Contra and Watergate times 10!

You did not like the fact that what I was speaking about IS in the emails either.

Nothing to like or dislike - I just don't see in them "hide what we KNOW." I'm waiting on you telling me what we did know, and where they told her to hide those few things we did.
 
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When you shed light on how the WH was involved, from a reliable source.

So then these sources wouldn't be considered as a reliable ones?

More than 100 pages of documents were released to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Among them was a Sept. 14, 2012, email from Ben Rhodes, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.
Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for

Email links White House advisor to spin blaming Benghazi on film

It's f-----ing over!!!!!

I'm thinking it's not.
 
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I responded to a direct assertion - I'll quote you again: "but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew."

Where is that in the email?

You've asserted again and again the attack was NOT in response to the video, but something else you won't or can't name, and despite other protests in the region...about the video. And you've asserted without proof they KNEW all this within days of the attack, despite interviews by BBC of protesters claiming it was....about the video, and before the actual investigation had even begun. But besides all this, what at that point did they KNOW? Did they know WHO? No, but they knew WHY? And if so, please tell me why they attacked the consulate? Was it terrorism, or was it in response to CIA spook activities run out of that consulate? And when did they KNOW this? When did you know this?




You want MORE investigation about very early talking points? Give me a break. This is why most of the rest of us moved on long ago from Benghazi. The entire scandal has been reduced to very early explanations by the WH about WHY some terrorists, unknown at that time, attacked us. These talking points were signed off on by everyone involved, CIA, FBI, State and WH. But apparently this is a scandal bigger than Iran Contra and Watergate times 10!



Nothing to like or dislike - I just don't see in them "hide what we KNOW." I'm waiting on you telling me what we did know, and where they told her to hide those few things we did.

You can get more info here. Emails Show Susan Rice Was Prepped To Lie About Benghazi By White House - Investors.com
 
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When you shed light on how the WH was involved, from a reliable source.

Rhodes, Carney and Pfeiffer are sources you would probably consider reliable, and it's right there in the email in black and white - from the WH with their names on it. Rhodes is now the Director of Communications at the WH. For a liberal, that's reliable. They've damned themselves.
 
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Its not and some should go back and read what we have up on Benghazi here......how many times do we have to put up what validates the BS that they lied over? Each time some come back trying to explain out what they don't have and what they can't get around.
 
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I responded to a direct assertion - I'll quote you again: "but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew."

Where is that in the email?

You've asserted again and again the attack was NOT in response to the video, but something else you won't or can't name, and despite other protests in the region...about the video. And you've asserted without proof they KNEW all this within days of the attack, despite interviews by BBC of protesters claiming it was....about the video, and before the actual investigation had even begun. But besides all this, what at that point did they KNOW? Did they know WHO? No, but they knew WHY? And if so, please tell me why they attacked the consulate? Was it terrorism, or was it in response to CIA spook activities run out of that consulate? And when did they KNOW this? When did you know this?




You want MORE investigation about very early talking points? Give me a break. This is why most of the rest of us moved on long ago from Benghazi. The entire scandal has been reduced to very early explanations by the WH about WHY some terrorists, unknown at that time, attacked us. These talking points were signed off on by everyone involved, CIA, FBI, State and WH. But apparently this is a scandal bigger than Iran Contra and Watergate times 10!



Nothing to like or dislike - I just don't see in them "hide what we KNOW." I'm waiting on you telling me what we did know, and where they told her to hide those few things we did.

Read this: Video: Besieged Carney Claims Newly-Released WH Emails...Weren't About Benghazi - Guy Benson
 
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this horse AINT dead, until Hilary's serving the proper amount of prison time (ie, 10 life sentences) for all her crimes.
 
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Its not and some should go back and read what we have up on Benghazi here......how many times do we have to put up what validates the BS that they lied over? Each time some come back trying to explain out what they don't have and what they can't get around.

Pretty soon it's going to be, "La, la, la, la, la - I can't hear you." from the left.
 
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Yep, plus we have the time he has said anything.

Sept. 12, 4:09 p.m.: At a press briefing en route to Las Vegas, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is asked, “Does the White House believe that the attack in Benghazi was planned and premeditated?” He responds, “It’s too early for us to make that judgment. I think — I know that this is being investigated, and we’re working with the Libyan government to investigate the incident. So I would not want to speculate on that at this time.”.....snip~
 
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Rhodes, Carney and Pfeiffer are sources you would probably consider reliable, and it's right there in the email in black and white - from the WH with their names on it. Rhodes is now the Director of Communications at the WH. For a liberal, that's reliable. They've damned themselves.

Show me
 
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Oh, great, an editorial from IBD. Got anything by NRO or Redstate? And can I link to something written by Media Matters in response?

I did read it - it's a recap of the editing process that involved CIA, State, FBI and the WH. What was I supposed to learn from that recap.

Can YOU tell me when we KNEW why the consulate was attacked and therefore when you knew it wasn't about the videos, but about something else no one will tell me?
 
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I responded to a direct assertion - I'll quote you again: "but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew."

Where is that in the email?

You've asserted again and again the attack was NOT in response to the video, but something else you won't or can't name, and despite other protests in the region...about the video. And you've asserted without proof they KNEW all this within days of the attack, despite interviews by BBC of protesters claiming it was....about the video, and before the actual investigation had even begun. But besides all this, what at that point did they KNOW? Did they know WHO? No, but they knew WHY? And if so, please tell me why they attacked the consulate? Was it terrorism, or was it in response to CIA spook activities run out of that consulate? And when did they KNOW this? When did you know this?




You want MORE investigation about very early talking points? Give me a break. This is why most of the rest of us moved on long ago from Benghazi. The entire scandal has been reduced to very early explanations by the WH about WHY some terrorists, unknown at that time, attacked us. These talking points were signed off on by everyone involved, CIA, FBI, State and WH. But apparently this is a scandal bigger than Iran Contra and Watergate times 10!



Nothing to like or dislike - I just don't see in them "hide what we KNOW." I'm waiting on you telling me what we did know, and where they told her to hide those few things we did.
The White House knew the attack was not a reaction to a video or a protest and that has been testified to several times. Furthermore the White House knew there had been no protest going on about ANYTHING at the embassy prior to the attack. Benghazi Timeline

So again, your regurgitation of the contortions in the story that have come from the White House are your apparently wishful speculation. As well as ignoring and dismissing everything that contradicts the contortions. As regards what Rhodes in his job at the White House was directing Rice to say where is that in the email you STILL are claiming does not say what I'm referring to? You must mean aside from the subject of the email? About the PREP call made to Rice? "RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 pm ET." As you insinuated to another poster when you called him out, but before you opted not to backup your "call out" with anything, it is about credibility. At this point you have now thrice proven to me you have none. You do appear to have faith in the administration but then these repeated knee jerk dismissals of yours are pretty explanatory. You keep leaping without thinking about what I said and what is in the emails that you clearly somehow managed to either miss or just did not bother to actually read.

Seems you and Jay Carney have something in common, neither of you can discern what the emails are about or contain in them. The poor man was besieged and then tried something really creative, he claimed these newly released WH emails...weren't even about Benghazi!:lamo



In any case what I'd like to see has already been stated. Trying to not too creatively change what I did say to I wanted investigation of every talking point. If I did it certainly would not be by the (any) administration investigating itself. :doh
 
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