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Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:212]

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Here is what All of Team O had to say on Sept 12. 2012......There is no getting around what they told the MS Media.


Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’
Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She called it a “violent attack.”
Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

Sept. 12: After his Rose Garden speech, Obama tapes an interview for “60 Minutes.” Obama says he didn’t use the word “terrorism” in his Rose Garden speech because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Steve Kroft, the show’s host, wonders how the attack could be described as a “mob action” since the attackers were “very heavily armed.” Obama says “we’re still investigating,” but he suspects “folks involved in this . . . were looking to target Americans from the start.”

Sept. 12: Senior administration officials, who did not permit use of their names, hold a briefing with reporters to answer questions about the attack. Twice officials characterize those involved in the attack as “extremists.” In one case, an official identified only as “senior administration official one” is asked by Fox News reporter Justin Fishel if the administration had ruled out the possibly that the attack was in response to the anti-Muslim video. The official says, “We just don’t know.”

Sept. 12, 4:09 p.m.: At a press briefing en route to Las Vegas, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is asked, “Does the White House believe that the attack in Benghazi was planned and premeditated?” He responds, “It’s too early for us to make that judgment. I think — I know that this is being investigated, and we’re working with the Libyan government to investigate the incident. So I would not want to speculate on that at this time.”

Sept. 12: Libya’s deputy ambassador to London, Ahmad Jibril, tells the BBC that Ansar al-Sharia was behind the attack. The little-known militant group issues a statement that says it “didn’t participate as a sole entity,” neither confirming nor denying the report.

Sept. 12, 6:06 p.m.: Beth Jones, the acting assistant secretary of state for the Near East, sends an email to top State Department officials that reads in part: “[T]he group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic extremists.” (An excerpt of Jones’ email was read by Rep. Trey Gowdy at the May 8, 2013, House oversight hearing.)

Sept. 12: Citing unnamed “U.S. government officials,” Reuters reports that “the Benghazi attack may have been planned in advance” and that members of Ansar al-Sharia “may have been involved.” Reuters quotes one of the U.S. officials as saying: “It bears the hallmarks of an organized attack.”.....snip~

Benghazi Timeline
 
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Wiseone said:
I said if because I hadn't heard that the White House had claimed Susan Rice's talking points weren't approved or supported by them. Also NY Post isn't a credible source.
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Then I am sorry to say Wiseone, that you really must have separated yourself from society following that Sunday morning...Not very wise.....;)

But that is just the point, they said just the opposite. They denied having anything to do with those talking points, and blamed it on the CIA...Now we find out that was a lie....And defenders of the administration like yourself still want to find even the smallest of cracks to try and wiggle through, like the fallacy of attacking the source....

If you can't even be honest enough to admit that this makes the administration out to be the liars they are, then we really have nothing to discuss.
 
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tecoyah said:
One is left to wonder....if there will come a time that the rabid GOP can accept that the horse is dead.

You guys are embarrassing to the sane wing.
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I do believe that this topic is definably less dead than a certain four Americans...

Too much? Don't let your embarrassment get in the way of rational thought, if you're capable of it in the first place.
 
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Sadly, this doesn't get the attention it deserves because it doesn't have any racists or missing airplanes.

It is truly one of the most disgusting failures in our State Department's history.

But if Hillary runs, I think that could change. She's going to get swift-boated mercilessly, as she should already have been by the msm.
 
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j-mac said:
Just as previously thought, and expressed by ANYONE with eyes, and ears....
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I've been waiting to see what would come of Judicial Watch's FOI efforts. They are tireless in their pursuit of them and the results of their work going back decades is well known and has effected the righting of more than a few wrongs. I'm not quite ready to buy that the "smoking gun" has been found as Fox News has claimed, but it does look damning. I'll wait to see what occurs next, but in reality I have no faith that anyone in the current administration can be trusted to be honest here or in most areas for that matter. If the "smoking gun" is there, it will become evident soon enough, though I don't think a thing will be done about it. Not by this administration, they have already investigated themselves and managed to not even come away from the investigation with the information Judicial Watch was able to legally get access to. Imagine that. :roll:
 
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j-mac said:
Then I am sorry to say Wiseone, that you really must have separated yourself from society following that Sunday morning...Not very wise.....;)

But that is just the point, they said just the opposite. They denied having anything to do with those talking points, and blamed it on the CIA...Now we find out that was a lie....And defenders of the administration like yourself still want to find even the smallest of cracks to try and wiggle through, like the fallacy of attacking the source....

If you can't even be honest enough to admit that this makes the administration out to be the liars they are, then we really have nothing to discuss.
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That's Right JMac.....and the whole time BO was campaigning he kept crying and whining about being politicized. Yet.....2 days Prior.....they had his WH schedule up. With his trips planned to Florida on the 11th and then to stop in Vegas. Meet up with Harry Reid. Then onto West Coast Cali for some more Party time. After the attack. Immediately they pulled down the WH schedule.

Couple days earlier AQ releases their Video calling on those in Libya to revenge al libi. Obama and Air Force one then left Florida and trekked west.

So in essence BO gave us the hint when he was getting ready to debate Romney.....and he jumped with. Don't attempt to politicize the attack during a campaign. Yet here was Obama using a Campaign to get himself re-elected.

To top it off then we have 23 Muslim Countries that rise up in protest all around the same time. To Protest our Embassies, Overseas Schools, Military installations, and Overseas Businesses.

That's when they just went with the Anti Muslim excuse. Wherein over half of those Rioting knew nothing about a video.


So truthfully it is more than just Benghazi......which is why all the confusion and giving Bo plenty of chance to play, duck, dodge and weave. Then Spin and deflect and then Do all to hold up any investigations into their actions.

Bottomline was we were hit.....albeit overseas. But with impact on the Death of a US Ambassador. Also we were hit On Bo's watch. Yet Bo was off to busy Partying and raising that money for that Election.

He was smart enough to deflect but not before he gave his ownself up. Thru his on words and hypocrisy as to not politicize such during an Election for Democracy. We can't have that. It shouldn't even be considered that he would do such a thing. All the while doing it.

Also lets not forget this isn't the first time for the Democrats and failing to secure and even know what the hell was going with an attack on US embassies. In which back then.....they said that this would never happen again. Due to all the New security that would be implemented.
 
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The entire controversy, in my view, has 2 main parts.
  • 4 dead Americans, one of which a respected ambassador were killed
    • Repeatedly asked for greater security, and were never granted such
    • State didn't want a 'heavy footprint' (security presence) at that embassy
    • It was obvious that on 9/11 anniversary the likelihood of an attack is increased
  • After the event, in the heat of the rapidly concluding election, no bad news for the Obama administration must have been the mandate. Hence misdirection of quickly discredited memes that the administration put in talking point to present in the media, even though the truth of the attack being well coordinated and pre-planned was already well known to the administration shortly after the attack started.
Now, for #1, it's a darn shame, but sometimes mistakes are made and there are errors in judgement. You learn from the event, and make policy and procedural changes to prevent a recurrence. Fine.

For #2, I find it inexcusable that the administration, one again, lies to the public when politically convenient. Further, I find it dam frustrating that some would accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior. In my view, and according to my value system, it isn't. It raises the question as to what values the people hold who accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior.

This part of the Benghazi issue is far from over, in spite of nearly everyone on the left wanting to bury it.
 
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Can this thread be moved to conspiracy theories?
 
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CycloneWanderer said:
I do believe that this topic is definably less dead than a certain four Americans...

Too much? Don't let your embarrassment get in the way of rational thought, if you're capable of it in the first place.
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I find it irrational to create such an issue out of these four deaths and the government handling of it, when taken in the context of the hundreds of diplomats killed in the line of duty under far more questionable circumstances. I also see this as damaging for the future of the party, and rather embarrassing.

The endless scandal hunt that began in the Birther movement paints a once formidable and proud party in the light of fourth graders playing "My Pop's Bigger than You Pop"....and it is sad to see.
 
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eohrnberger said:
The entire controversy, in my view, has 2 main parts.
  • 4 dead Americans, one of which a respected ambassador were killed
    • Repeatedly asked for greater security, and were never granted such
    • State didn't want a 'heavy footprint' (security presence) at that embassy
    • It was obvious that on 9/11 anniversary the likelihood of an attack is increased
  • After the event, in the heat of the rapidly concluding election, no bad news for the Obama administration must have been the mandate. Hence misdirection of quickly discredited memes that the administration put in talking point to present in the media, even though the truth of the attack being well coordinated and pre-planned was already well known to the administration shortly after the attack started.
Now, for #1, it's a darn shame, but sometimes mistakes are made and there are errors in judgement. You learn from the event, and make policy and procedural changes to prevent a recurrence. Fine.

For #2, I find it inexcusable that the administration, one again, lies to the public when politically convenient. Further, I find it dam frustrating that some would accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior. In my view, and according to my value system, it isn't. It raises the question as to what values the people hold who accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior.

This part of the Benghazi issue is far from over, in spite of nearly everyone on the left wanting to bury it.
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Mornin Eorhn :2wave: and speaking of Mistakes.....this is where we hook Hillary up. Then on the 14th.....we can Hook up the WH.


Sept. 13: ‘Clearly Planned’ or ‘Spontaneous’ Attack?

Sept. 13: Clinton meets with Ali Suleiman Aujali — the Libyan ambassador to the U.S. — at a State Department event to mark the end of Ramadan. Ambassador Aujali apologizes to Clinton for what he called “this terrorist attack which took place against the American consulate in Libya.” Clinton, in her remarks, does not refer to it as a terrorist attack. She condemns the anti-Muslim video, but adds that there is “never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

Clinton: Religious freedom and religious tolerance are essential to the stability of any nation, any people. Hatred and violence in the name of religion only poison the well. All people of faith and good will know that the actions of a small and savage group in Benghazi do not honor religion or God in any way. Nor do they speak for the more than 1 billion Muslims around the world, many of whom have shown an outpouring of support during this time.

Unfortunately, however, over the last 24 hours, we have also seen violence spread elsewhere. Some seek to justify this behavior as a response to inflammatory, despicable material posted on the Internet. As I said earlier today, the United States rejects both the content and the message of that video. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. At our meeting earlier today, my colleague, the foreign minister of Morocco, said that all prophets should be respected because they are all symbols of our humanity, for all humanity.

But both of us were crystal clear in this paramount message: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind. And we look to leaders around the world to stand up and speak out against violence, and to take steps to protect diplomatic missions from attack.

Sept. 13: At a daily press briefing, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland was asked if the Benghazi attack was “purely spontaneous or was premeditated by militants.” She declined to say, reiterating that the administration did not want to “jump to conclusions.”

Sept. 13: Clinton met with Moroccan Foreign Minister Saad-Eddine Al-Othmani. She condemned what she called the “disgusting and reprehensible” anti-Muslim video and the violence that it triggered. She said, “Islam, like other religions, respects the fundamental dignity of human beings, and it is a violation of that fundamental dignity to wage attacks on innocents. As long as there are those who are willing to shed blood and take innocent life in the name of religion, the name of God, the world will never know a true and lasting peace.”

Sept. 13: At a campaign event in Colorado, Obama again uses the phrase “act of terror.” He says: “I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished.”

Sept. 13: CNN reports that unnamed “State Department officials” say the incident in Benghazi was a “clearly planned military-type attack” unrelated to the anti-Muslim movie.

Sept. 14: White House Says No Evidence of Planned Attack.....snip~

How do they get past the Fact Checkers and the Timeline? Whats actually needed is Politicians that know and will ask the Right Questions and not take all the time to Talk about themselves. While chastising Hillary. As it was clear she would take whatever chastisement knowing they could block and hinder things.
 
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eohrnberger said:
The entire controversy, in my view, has 2 main parts.
  • 4 dead Americans, one of which a respected ambassador were killed
    • Repeatedly asked for greater security, and were never granted such
    • State didn't want a 'heavy footprint' (security presence) at that embassy
    • It was obvious that on 9/11 anniversary the likelihood of an attack is increased
  • After the event, in the heat of the rapidly concluding election, no bad news for the Obama administration must have been the mandate. Hence misdirection of quickly discredited memes that the administration put in talking point to present in the media, even though the truth of the attack being well coordinated and pre-planned was already well known to the administration shortly after the attack started.
Now, for #1, it's a darn shame, but sometimes mistakes are made and there are errors in judgement. You learn from the event, and make policy and procedural changes to prevent a recurrence. Fine.

For #2, I find it inexcusable that the administration, one again, lies to the public when politically convenient. Further, I find it dam frustrating that some would accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior. In my view, and according to my value system, it isn't. It raises the question as to what values the people hold who accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior.

This part of the Benghazi issue is far from over, in spite of nearly everyone on the left wanting to bury it.
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It is not over nor should it be just because this administration and their fanboys and fangirls really really want it to be. For those types who as we can see just in this thread, since it is their guy and his administration on the grill? They suddenly want salad, if it must be on the grill that want it black and blue, maybe rare if they must be forced to the table. Of course if this were not their guy and his administration, they would want a long afternoon at a churrasco, serving extra large portions well done with scorching and a blackened crust. :wink2:
 
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Mithros said:
Can this thread be moved to conspiracy theories?
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Why.....Fact Check. Org. Politifact......and even overseas news sources, are hard to get around.....huh? :roll:
 
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tecoyah said:
I find it irrational to create such an issue out of these four deaths and the government handling of it, when taken in the context of the hundreds of diplomats killed in the line of duty under far more questionable circumstances. I also see this as damaging for the future of the party, and rather embarrassing.

The endless scandal hunt that began in the Birther movement paints a once formidable and proud party in the light of fourth graders playing "My Pop's Bigger than You Pop"....and it is sad to see.
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Oh Really?

Chris Stevens, Libya, 2012 | Before Libya: U.S. Ambassadors Who Have Died in the Line of Duty | TIME.com

"The U.S. ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was killed on Sept. 11 after protesters swarmed the U.S. consulate in the town of Benghazi. He was rushed to the hospital but later died of severe asphyxiation, presumably due to smoke inhalation. Stevens, a career diplomat who was appointed to the ambassadorial position by the Senate in June, was helping to evacuate staff from the building when the attack broke out. Gunmen led the charge, riddling the compound with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, leaving only a burned-out shell of a building. Stevens is the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979."
 
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MMC said:
Why.....Fact Check. Org. Politifact......and even overseas news sources, are hard to get around.....huh? :roll:
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Really? You seem to be able to dismiss facts quite easily.

Bengazi was an impromptu attack by a widely disparate group of actors under the cover of and in response to the protests in Cairo sparked by an internet video. Them are facts. No it was not spontaneous, but nor was it planned more than a few hours ahead of time.

The fantasy storyline that this thread and the 500 other spammings are trying to push; namely that these were carefully planned attacks by al Qaeda operatives which the administration knew about but intentionally failed to prevent or respond to so that they could hide them in a goldbergian conspiracy to win a presidential election is ludicrous.

Yes, four people died. It's a horrible tragedy. But people who try and turn that tragedy into a political weapon so that their side "wins" are pretty terrible human beings. Ask yourself this question, why has the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary? Could it be because this is a manufactured hit piece by the right wing to try and discredit a FAR more successful administration? Notice how the Democrats didn't use the complete failure of 9/11 as a political bludgeon? Who's looking to make things better, and who's looking to score political points?
 
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Mithros said:
Can this thread be moved to conspiracy theories?
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Don't think that it really qualifies as a 'conspiracy theory'. More like a conspiracy fact.
 
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Filthy McNasty said:
It is not over nor should it be just because this administration and their fanboys and fangirls really really want it to be. For those types who as we can see just in this thread, since it is their guy and his administration on the grill? They suddenly want salad, if it must be on the grill that want it black and blue, maybe rare if they must be forced to the table. Of course if this were not their guy and his administration, they would want a long afternoon at a churrasco, serving extra large portions well done with scorching and a blackened crust. :wink2:
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Heya FM. :2wave: That's Right.....now Team Bo and the supporting cast might want people to think it wil be going away. But notice how this just keeps dragging along. The kicker is its going to drag along until 2016. So Hillary knows whats waiting for her should she try and make the dash. Then all those posters of Stevens body being dragged thru the streets. Will make their way to each and every event she goes to. She might have said. What difference does it make. But then ask after she is still living her Major mistake.


To top it off.....we even have what the Libyan TNC had to say.


Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack.....

American diplomats were warned of possible violent unrest in Benghazi three days before the killings of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three members of his team, Libyan security officials say.

The claim came as the country's interim President, Mohammed el-Megarif, said his government had information that the attack on the US consulate had been planned by an Islamist group with links to al-Qa'ida and with foreigners taking part.

However, the American ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, insisted that the killings had resulted from a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Mohamed, replicating protests in Cairo, which had been "hijacked" and got out of control.

The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

But President Megarif told the American station National Public Radio: "We firmly believe that this was a pre-calculated, pre-planned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the US Consulate. A few of those who joined in were foreigners who had entered Libya from different directions, some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."

A senior official of the biggest militia in Benghazi, the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he had warned US diplomats of a rapidly deteriorating security situation in Benghazi three days before the attack. "The situation is frightening, it scares us," he said he had stressed during the meeting. Mr Stevens had been back in Libya for only a short time before US security officials decided it would be safe to make the journey to Benghazi during the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The British consulate in the city was shut after an ambush of a convoy carrying Dominic Asquith, the UK ambassador, in which his bodyguard were injured. The UN and International Committee of the Red Cross offices had been bombed and there had been a spate of political assassinations.....snip~

Then here is how we need to go after Susan Rice and let her feel the freefall.....snip~

However, Ms Rice denied the Benghazi attack was pre-planned. She said: "Our current best assessment... is that... it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo. "A small number of people came to the consulate. It seems to have been hijacked by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons... And it then evolved from there.....snip~

Sept 18th.....even after the 14th and from what Panetta had reported to all. So she was doing what on the 18th? She even managed to piss the Libyan president off for calling basically saying he was a liar. When in fact he was telling the truth.

Now whats Susan Rice doing as NSC Chief Advisor? Besides playing the token temp on the job in training routine.
 
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Mithros said:
Really? You seem to be able to dismiss facts quite easily.

Bengazi was an impromptu attack by a widely disparate group of actors under the cover of and in response to the protests in Cairo sparked by an internet video. Them are facts. No it was not spontaneous, but nor was it planned more than a few hours ahead of time.

The fantasy storyline that this thread and the 500 other spammings are trying to push; namely that these were carefully planned attacks by al Qaeda operatives which the administration knew about but intentionally failed to prevent or respond to so that they could hide them in a goldbergian conspiracy to win a presidential election is ludicrous.

Yes, four people died. It's a horrible tragedy. But people who try and turn that tragedy into a political weapon so that their side "wins" are pretty terrible human beings. Ask yourself this question, why has the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary? Could it be because this is a manufactured hit piece by the right wing to try and discredit a FAR more successful administration? Notice how the Democrats didn't use the complete failure of 9/11 as a political bludgeon? Who's looking to make things better, and who's looking to score political points?
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Ooops.....the factcheckers timeline and MS media newsources say otherwise. Even the word spoken by Bo and Team O and admitting some of it.
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What else ya gots?
 
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CycloneWanderer said:
Oh Really?

Chris Stevens, Libya, 2012 | Before Libya: U.S. Ambassadors Who Have Died in the Line of Duty | TIME.com

"The U.S. ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was killed on Sept. 11 after protesters swarmed the U.S. consulate in the town of Benghazi. He was rushed to the hospital but later died of severe asphyxiation, presumably due to smoke inhalation. Stevens, a career diplomat who was appointed to the ambassadorial position by the Senate in June, was helping to evacuate staff from the building when the attack broke out. Gunmen led the charge, riddling the compound with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, leaving only a burned-out shell of a building. Stevens is the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979."
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Diplomat is spelled a bit differently than Ambassador......might want to read before replying:

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Mithros said:
Really? You seem to be able to dismiss facts quite easily.

Bengazi was an impromptu attack by a widely disparate group of actors under the cover of and in response to the protests in Cairo sparked by an internet video. Them are facts. No it was not spontaneous, but nor was it planned more than a few hours ahead of time.

The fantasy storyline that this thread and the 500 other spammings are trying to push; namely that these were carefully planned attacks by al Qaeda operatives which the administration knew about but intentionally failed to prevent or respond to so that they could hide them in a goldbergian conspiracy to win a presidential election is ludicrous.

Yes, four people died. It's a horrible tragedy. But people who try and turn that tragedy into a political weapon so that their side "wins" are pretty terrible human beings. Ask yourself this question, why has the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary? Could it be because this is a manufactured hit piece by the right wing to try and discredit the FAR more successful administration? Notice how the Democrats didn't use the complete failure of 9/11 as a political bludgeon?
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I'd ask myself why the focus has shifted from Obama to Hilary, except of course the focus is upon them both. Just like it has been from the start, since one is POTUS and the other was SOS and may be running for POTUS. There should be nothing surprising about that to anyone. Also, you do understand that when matters of fact, like those obtained by Judicial Watch come out that contradict the explanations from the administration, this is a problem in the credibility department? The assurances of internet fanboys and fangirls (often the position they held the day after the news broke and held on to ever since) are themselves the storylines of fantasy. Not spam, but good try. :roll:
 
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Mithros said:
Really? You seem to be able to dismiss facts quite easily.

Bengazi was an impromptu attack by a widely disparate group of actors under the cover of and in response to the protests in Cairo sparked by an internet video. Them are facts. No it was not spontaneous, but nor was it planned more than a few hours ahead of time.
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This discovered facts that have been entered into the record have already dismissed and discredited this meme.

Mithros said:
The fantasy storyline that this thread and the 500 other spammings are trying to push; namely that these were carefully planned attacks by al Qaeda operatives which the administration knew about but intentionally failed to prevent or respond to so that they could hide them in a goldbergian conspiracy to win a presidential election is ludicrous.
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No, this is the part of the controversy that comes under the '**** happens' part, where you learn from it and move on.

Mithros said:
Yes, four people died. It's a horrible tragedy. But people who try and turn that tragedy into a political weapon so that their side "wins" are pretty terrible human beings. Ask yourself this question, why has the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary? Could it be because this is a manufactured hit piece by the right wing to try and discredit a FAR more successful administration? Notice how the Democrats didn't use the complete failure of 9/11 as a political bludgeon? Who's looking to make things better, and who's looking to score political points?
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Of course you want to narrowly focus on the action on the ground. That's only 1/2 of the issue.

The president and his administration lying (documented)
The president and his administration misdirection (also documented)
The president and his administration blaming of several talking point meme's that were quickly discredited

These are all the things that in this issue that you don't want to talk about.
 
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MMC said:
Ooops.....the factcheckers timeline and MS media newsources say otherwise. Even the word spoken by Bo and Team O and admitting some of it.
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What else ya gots?
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See I told you that you were good!
 
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MMC said:
Heya FM. :2wave: That's Right.....now Team Bo and the supporting cast might want people to think it wil be going away. But notice how this just keeps dragging along. The kicker is its going to drag along until 2016. So Hillary knows whats waiting for her should she try and make the dash. Then all those posters of Stevens body being dragged thru the streets. Will make their way to each and every event she goes to. She might have said. What difference does it make. But then ask after she is still living her Major mistake.


To top it off.....we even have what the Libyan TNC had to say.


Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack.....

American diplomats were warned of possible violent unrest in Benghazi three days before the killings of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three members of his team, Libyan security officials say.

The claim came as the country's interim President, Mohammed el-Megarif, said his government had information that the attack on the US consulate had been planned by an Islamist group with links to al-Qa'ida and with foreigners taking part.

However, the American ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, insisted that the killings had resulted from a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Mohamed, replicating protests in Cairo, which had been "hijacked" and got out of control.

The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

But President Megarif told the American station National Public Radio: "We firmly believe that this was a pre-calculated, pre-planned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the US Consulate. A few of those who joined in were foreigners who had entered Libya from different directions, some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."

A senior official of the biggest militia in Benghazi, the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he had warned US diplomats of a rapidly deteriorating security situation in Benghazi three days before the attack. "The situation is frightening, it scares us," he said he had stressed during the meeting. Mr Stevens had been back in Libya for only a short time before US security officials decided it would be safe to make the journey to Benghazi during the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The British consulate in the city was shut after an ambush of a convoy carrying Dominic Asquith, the UK ambassador, in which his bodyguard were injured. The UN and International Committee of the Red Cross offices had been bombed and there had been a spate of political assassinations.....snip~

Then here is how we need to go after Susan Rice and let her feel the freefall.....snip~

However, Ms Rice denied the Benghazi attack was pre-planned. She said: "Our current best assessment... is that... it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo. "A small number of people came to the consulate. It seems to have been hijacked by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons... And it then evolved from there.....snip~

Sept 18th.....even after the 14th and from what Panetta had reported to all. So she was doing what on the 18th? She even managed to piss the Libyan president off for calling basically saying he was a liar. When in fact he was telling the truth.

Now whats Susan Rice doing as NSC Chief Advisor? Besides playing the token temp on the job in training routine.
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Not to ignore the effort you put in there but I'm pretty familiar with the events and the timeline. And I'm now making myself familiar with the contents of the emails Judicial Watch secured, but admit I'm still working my way through them. Which is why this administration investigating itself, but not coming up with even the info Judical Watch secured, points to the source of the foul smell from Denmark's direction.
 
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Mithros said:
Can this thread be moved to conspiracy theories?
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No, this isn't the Daily Kos, or Mother jones.

Some people here value human life and honesty over their twisted Obama lust.
 
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tecoyah said:
Diplomat is spelled a bit differently than Ambassador......might want to read before replying:

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How is that relevent to the fact a Presidential Administration purposely misled the American public AND the Family members of those murdered in Benghazzi solely because it too Politically risky to tell the truth ?

If there was ever any question before Benghazzi that Obama and Hillary and everyone associated with them were hard core scum bags there sure isn't anymore.
 
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Mithros said:
See I told you that you were good!
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Aw shucks.
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and here I was just doing the.....a lil dab will do ya routine.
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