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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    You are right I did miss that. Sort of like you missed my reply to you in #55. In any case, I agree that making this partisan is dumb. Seeing a lot of that in this thread, no surprise there. So since you missed it before, let me "reqoute" for you.

    Except that they did know much, that night, and certainly before sending out Rice to the Sunday shows. In fact the contents of these emails that Judicial Watch secured through FOI detail that they not only knew much, they knew the attack was not related to a video. Yet they actively coached Rice not to share what they knew. They even had a list that involved blaming the attack on the well known video, as well as playing up the President's "strengths". As comical as that sounds at this point in 2014.
    See my response to this at #60.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    What is hilarious from this Liberal's standpoint how the bleat of the "progressives" has never altered from day one. Instead of answering the charges, they hide behind a veiled accusation of partisan attacks. Instead of the boasted "most open and accountable administration in American history" we are offered hiding behind a veiled dismissal of "old news" as each new revelation is somehow not news because the White House has deemed it so. Jay, Bagdad Bob, Carney is the face of honesty, decrying it's old "old news" status when we learned the president when to bed and slept fine as his gun running ambassador was dying in agony. It was "old news" when we learned there were rockets just lying there for the "spontaneous" demonstrators to gather up and start using in a rapture-driven frenzy of gratitude for their "liberation" at the hands of the Americans. It was "old news" when we learned there was help that could have been dispatched because it would look bad against Obama's policy. It was "old news" when we learned the stupid video could not have been aired there; and it is "old news" now that we learn that the White House deliberately manipulated a false message to the "international community" for purely partisan purposes.
    Come on - that's been debunked about 30 times now. When you cite that garbage, you lose any credibility.

    If it's not a series of deliberate moves to deceive the American people then the Obama administration is the most incompetent regime in the history of mankind.....no other reason can there be for such a prolonged and patently false story.
    False stories like non-existent "stand down orders" where the U.S. military deliberately let U.S. citizens die for political reasons.

    Reputation is everything, a man's word is his bond, with Obama and his supporters their word is smoke and mirrors. Don't believe anything they say..
    But the right wing outlets that lied to you about stand down orders, etc. should be believed? Got it!

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Nope, I was referring to someone else. The joker that was miffed about why the focus was supposedly "shifted" or shifting between the POTUS and SOS. As if those two ought not to be the "focus" of attention. Rather than say Petraeus.
    FIFY.

    It was his facility, doing his work, two of his employees dead, the others with State department cover, but oddly no one mentions the CIA or the DCI.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Come on - that's been debunked about 30 times now. When you cite that garbage, you lose any credibility.



    False stories like non-existent "stand down orders" where the U.S. military deliberately let U.S. citizens die for political reasons.



    But the right wing outlets that lied to you about stand down orders, etc. should be believed? Got it!


    And not one link.

    I think you missed the part where I said there have been too many lies for me to believe anyone from the left on this file.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well really.....that Depends how much Libya makes the news. Since not many want to know about that failure in the first place.
    The failure has been proven. It was a grave mistake, but it is over. Time to move on which most Americans have done.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry, you don't get to declare that as long as news about it keeps surfacing....You guys always approach these things the same way....

    Watch at :50 forward....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW9Q1cm_Tnw
    Since your video link is dead, and I don't know what it was in the first place, here's the report from Special Report that lays it all out:


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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And not one link.

    I think you missed the part where I said there have been too many lies for me to believe anyone from the left on this file.

    Have a nice day
    And you have none either, but to play along, here's a link about stand down orders.

    http://armedservices.house.gov/index...A-0045A6433426

    It's from the majority report on Benghazi. There WAS a stand down order, but it was because 1) if that team had left Tripoli, they'd have passed planes carrying wounded already evacuated on their way to Tripoli, and the team had emergency first aid skills needed, and 2) the military chain of command decided that a small force was necessary to protect Tripoli in case those facilities were attacked. It's all in the GOP report, beginning page 22. There's much more, including direct testimony from senior military about how the planes would have crossed in the night, etc. but this should get you started.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    You're argument is that we have many diplomats die, so Benghazi is no big deal. That argument is stupid. Yes, "Ambassador" is spelled differently than "Diplomat." You might want to understand words before you use them. An Ambassador is a class higher in importance than the average diplomat. Only 8 US ambassadors have been killed in the line of duty in the entirety of US history, 2 of which were in plane crashes. There have been thousands of US ambassadors, many in some very dangerous places. A higher percentage of US presidents have been killed in the line of duty (4 out of 43) than US ambassadors.
    Yes...that argument is stupid. Almost as stupid as making assumptions and placing words into the mouths of others.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's not in the emails. This was days after the attack - we didn't KNOW who, much less why, the CIA facilities were attacked. Early on it was blamed on at least three potential groups, and the FBI hadn't even made it on site yet to begin the investigation. We could GUESS, but we didn't KNOW anything about who or therefore why. I'm not sure we (the public) know WHY even now because the CIA activities were classified and I've never seen a description of what those classified activities were. Something important enough to draw the Ambassador to the facility despite it being unfortified, that much is clear, but beyond that it's speculation.

    And "playing up the POTUS" strengths - this is politics, are you a bit surprised that politicians are political, or are naive enough to believe that this kind of talking point stuff hasn't happened since George Washington?

    Just one more thing - someone mentioned the focus being on Hillary and Obama - that's fine. But it's odd, don't you think, that Petraeus is left out of all this? It was a CIA facility, doing CIA work, under State department cover. The dead included two directly on CIA payroll, but Petraeus didn't go to the memorial, to hide the CIA role. So given this, what was THE reason? You guys on the right tell us with certainty it was NOT the video - OK. So what was the motivation of a bunch of terrorists to plan that attack? Was it an act of terrorism, or more akin to an act of war, i.e. direct retaliation for what the CIA was doing at that facility? You all seem to KNOW a lot - so please explain.
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    As you can see, you are talking utter rubbish. Either you are just truly ignorant about what is in the emails, or you are just comfortable lying about them despite what is in them. My comments about Rhodes list (including playing up the POTUS's strengths) are derived from the information in Rhodes emails. Your speculation is predicated upon the administration's contorted explanations. I'll take a full and thorough investigation, by anyone but the same administration being investigated, that holds everyone who is responsible accountable and that includes Petraeus. I have no faith that will EVER happen, arguments like yours (knee jerk defense and attempt to claim the material in the emails is NOT in the emails) are a solid example as to why.

    Lastly, the humor derived from a list that included playing up the "strengths" of President Obama as a response to what happened in Benghazi? Unintentionally funny to me and I bet most people at this point in 2014; whether you like it or not. You did not like the fact that what I was speaking about IS in the emails either.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    The failure has been proven. It was a grave mistake, but it is over. Time to move on which most Americans have done.
    How is that when Obama says that he will bring those to justice who did this and hasn't? Moreover he sites he has an FBI investigation going on over in Libya. But now for some reason can't get any help with any investigating being done. See its those little details like that. Which leaves this all to keep on running.

    There is a difference in manufacturing a scandal as Opposed to being caught up in one. The latter here is why Bo can't make it all go away.

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