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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Aw shucks. and here I was just doing the.....a lil dab will do ya routine.
    Coming from the guy up the scroll who was miffed that "focus" was on the POTUS and SOS who might run for POTUS, you'll need more than a lil dab. Even then it is predictable that it won't do.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Reading your previous post, its pretty apparent that you assumed the WH's Lie was really just their not knowing because they lacked the data and the time to investigate.

    They DID know. The know without a doubt it was a " Protest".

    You contradicted yourself
    The writing is a bit unclear so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The point of posting Rice's testimony is they didn't KNOW much, said they didn't know much, which is why we had a series of investigations.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Sadly, this doesn't get the attention it deserves because it doesn't have any racists or missing airplanes.

    It is truly one of the most disgusting failures in our State Department's history.

    But if Hillary runs, I think that could change. She's going to get swift-boated mercilessly, as she should already have been by the msm.
    What was the 'disgusting failure?' I'm serious - we've been attacked overseas many times, often with deaths, thousands of Americans have died by all kinds of methods. Our embassies/civilian facilities have been attacked repeatedly, with deaths. What is different about this event that makes it a 'disgusting failure?'

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Really? You seem to be able to dismiss facts quite easily.

    Bengazi was an impromptu attack by a widely disparate group of actors under the cover of and in response to the protests in Cairo sparked by an internet video. Them are facts. No it was not spontaneous, but nor was it planned more than a few hours ahead of time.

    The fantasy storyline that this thread and the 500 other spammings are trying to push; namely that these were carefully planned attacks by al Qaeda operatives which the administration knew about but intentionally failed to prevent or respond to so that they could hide them in a goldbergian conspiracy to win a presidential election is ludicrous.

    Yes, four people died. It's a horrible tragedy. But people who try and turn that tragedy into a political weapon so that their side "wins" are pretty terrible human beings. Ask yourself this question, why has the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary? Obvious answer: Because the State Department headed by Clinton was more directly responsible for the safety of ambassadors. Though, I doubt the veracity of the claim that "the emphasis switched from Obama to Hillary. It seems that Obama and the administration's media campaign post-attack is the focus right now Could it be because this is a manufactured hit piece by the right wing to try and discredit the FAR more successful administration? This question seems out of place with your previous assertion that the focus is on Hillary. If the focus were on Hillary, this piece obviously wouldn't be to discredit the administration because Clinton is no longer a part of it. I also don't understand your implied comparison "FAR more successful." Who are you saying the current administration is FAR more successful than? To answer your question: no. I don't think reporting on some newly released emails is worthy of being called a "manufactured hit piece." Notice how the Democrats didn't use the complete failure of 9/11 as a political bludgeon? You're right, the tragedies democrats use for political bludgeoning are school shootings and anything that can be tied to racism
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The writing is a bit unclear so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The point of posting Rice's testimony is they didn't KNOW much, said they didn't know much, which is why we had a series of investigations.
    Except that they did know much, that night, and certainly before sending out Rice to the Sunday shows. In fact the contents of these emails that Judicial Watch secured through FOI detail that they not only knew much, but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew. They even had a list that involved blaming the attack on the well known video, as well as playing up the President's "strengths". As comical as that sounds at this point in 2014. When the public polling shows that our current POTUS has no perceived strengths. Not any more.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    Also lets not forget this isn't the first time for the Democrats and failing to secure and even know what the hell was going with an attack on US embassies. In which back then.....they said that this would never happen again. Due to all the New security that would be implemented.
    Your bias is showing through.

    Deaths on attacks on U.S. facilities by Pres.

    Reagan: 94
    H.W. Bush: 0
    Clinton: 223 (with 212 killed in Kenya)
    W Bush: 49
    Obama: 14 (including Benghazi)

    List of attacks on diplomatic missions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Point is these attacks are relatively common, across parties, administrations, etc.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Your bias is showing through.

    Deaths on attacks on U.S. facilities by Pres.

    Reagan: 94
    H.W. Bush: 0
    Clinton: 223 (with 212 killed in Kenya)
    W Bush: 49
    Obama: 14 (including Benghazi)

    List of attacks on diplomatic missions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Point is these attacks are relatively common, across parties, administrations, etc.
    Holy unrelated (but even more damning) factoid Batman!
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    Last edited by Filthy McNasty; 04-30-14 at 01:18 PM.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What was the 'disgusting failure?' I'm serious - we've been attacked overseas many times, often with deaths, thousands of Americans have died by all kinds of methods. Our embassies/civilian facilities have been attacked repeatedly, with deaths. What is different about this event that makes it a 'disgusting failure?'
    How about conspiring to cover up their mistakes by blaming the entire incident on an internet video?

    Beyond pathetic.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The writing is a bit unclear so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The point of posting Rice's testimony is they didn't KNOW much, said they didn't know much, which is why we had a series of investigations.
    What ?!?!

    What's wrong with you people ?

    "Our best information concludes that in FACT, this was not a pre planned pre-meditated attack "

    If they " didn't KNOW much " then why didnt they just say so instead of deliberately LYING about the nature of the attack ?

    Why did Hillary Clinton tell the Parents of the men who lost their lives in Benghazzi that " we will arrest and prosecute the man that made this video " ??

    If "they didnt know enough" why wouldnt they have just told Rice to say the issue was still under investigation ??

    You're not talking to a Obama supporter, you realize that don't you ? So I'm not going to fall for this BS story that they didn't know.

    They DID know, immediately.

    Its a sobering thought to realize that this Nation is filled with people who are more loyal to their political party than the truth.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Except that they did know much, that night, and certainly before sending out Rice to the Sunday shows. In fact the contents of these emails that Judicial Watch secured through FOI detail that they not only knew much, but were actively coaching Rice not to share what they knew. They even had a list that involved blaming the attack on the well known video, as well as playing up the President's "strengths". As comical as that sounds at this point in 2014. When the public polling shows that our current POTUS has no perceived strengths. Not any more.
    That's not in the emails. This was days after the attack - we didn't KNOW who, much less why, the CIA facilities were attacked. Early on it was blamed on at least three potential groups, and the FBI hadn't even made it on site yet to begin the investigation. We could GUESS, but we didn't KNOW anything about who or therefore why. I'm not sure we (the public) know WHY even now because the CIA activities were classified and I've never seen a description of what those classified activities were. Something important enough to draw the Ambassador to the facility despite it being unfortified, that much is clear, but beyond that it's speculation.

    And "playing up the POTUS" strengths - this is politics, are you a bit surprised that politicians are political, or are naive enough to believe that this kind of talking point stuff hasn't happened since George Washington?

    Just one more thing - someone mentioned the focus being on Hillary and Obama - that's fine. But it's odd, don't you think, that Petraeus is left out of all this? It was a CIA facility, doing CIA work, under State department cover. The dead included two directly on CIA payroll, but Petraeus didn't go to the memorial, to hide the CIA role. So given this, what was THE reason? You guys on the right tell us with certainty it was NOT the video - OK. So what was the motivation of a bunch of terrorists to plan that attack? Was it an act of terrorism, or more akin to an act of war, i.e. direct retaliation for what the CIA was doing at that facility? You all seem to KNOW a lot - so please explain.

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