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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Libyan President, who should be in a position to know, also said the next day that the attack was organized by a terrorist group and no video was involved.

    I know of no other international leader who blamed this attack on a video. But with the media on their side, and claiming Fox News was always against them, I suppose they figured their uberloyal domestic audience and their sycophants in the WH would just go along with this BS. And we can see that many of Obama 'lemmings' still do.
    I know of no other media in any country that in any way suggested the attack on the anniversary of 911 could be anything other than a terrorist attack. It has only been Obama's White House and the MSM who have in any way given credence to that.

    They cannot back down now though, to admit there might be something there, a possible grain of ugliness, a wrongdoing, even a miscue will doom them for years and certainly in November where they stand to lose everything.

    In the end, politics is about credibility, not truth. Nixon's lemmings were as devout, ignoring a lot and excusing more, using the same arguments in better ways than the Democrats are here and deny, deny, deny.

    But then the credible denial become no longer credible, when the tapes revealed Nixon had no only lied about everything but lied about lying, his supporters had nothing left to shoot with, the lies were no longer believable. They had waited too long to admit even slight wrongdoing.

    This was designed to prop up Obama's steadfast claim he had beaten terrorism, killed Osama and won the hearts and minds of the middle east during a crucial election campaign he surely would have lost had Americans known then what a complete fraud he is. The White House was also in the process of lying to Americans about Obamacare and knew that would be blown open in weeks too....

    There is no way there is not some bad ugliness in this...the fact they are clinging to this day to the absurd idea that a demonstration caused this, and now, tywo years later suddenly are foisting the idea that somehow a demonstration in Cairo was somehow to blame.

    With thin excuses and inept story making like that, desperation is what its about now.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    What do demonstrations in Cairo have to do with the assassination of an Ambassador in Benghazi? Are you provuing Carney is a liar or geographically illiterate?

    And what do demonstrations in Cairo have to do with the fact the President, Clinton and Rice continued to press this outrageous and deceitful story for two weeks AFTER being outed by the German and French press? Even Canada knew it was bull****.

    The Obama lemmings never run out of straw for their men do they?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/wo...tion.html?_r=0
    To Libyans who witnessed the assault and know the attackers, there is little doubt what occurred: a well-known group of local Islamist militants struck the United States Mission without any warning or protest, and they did it in retaliation for the video. That is what the fighters said at the time, speaking emotionally of their anger at the video without mentioning Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the terrorist strikes of 11 years earlier. And it is an explanation that tracks with their history as members of a local militant group determined to protect Libya from Western influence.

    “It was the Ansar al-Shariah people,” said Mohamed Bishari, 20, a neighbor of the compound who watched the assault and described the brigade he saw leading the attack. “There was no protest or anything of that sort.”

    People who carried out the attack claimed it was in retaliation for the video Innocence of Muslims. The people who did it used the video as an excuse after they did it. No, it was not a peaceful protest gone awry but yes it was motivated in large part by the same video which caused the protests in Cairo, Lebanon, Pakistan, Tunisia, etc.. Sure, there were also probably Al Qaeda sympathizers who launched a failed attack the previous June in retaliation for a drone strike killing Abu Yahya al-Libi. But that doesn't account for every single person. To deny that there were people who carried out the attack that weren't motivated by rage over the video is absurd beyond belief..

    The only "lemmings" are those who repeatedly push this "story" which is based on a mountain of falsehoods and lies that would make George Orwell blush. And for what? As Hillary said, does it really matter WHY the attack happened? Would it be less of a tragedy if the attacks were motivated by militant flat earthers? Would it in anyway change the failures in security or intelligence? And if you want to be rude and call someone a lemming, start with the people denying that there were protests in the first place.

    Mods: This is not breaking news. It is two years old and there has not been any new reporting by any reputable news source. It should be moved to conspiracy theories or at least non MSM.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
    I'm not saying they did. Trying to figure this out in a person's mind takes some reading. I've been doing some of that and found these two links helpful. It appears the protesters in Cairo used the stupid youtube video as an excuse to protest, while Obama and his minions used it as the sole reason for the attack in Benghazi. It's complicated, it really is.

    Al Qaeda-linked jihadists helped incite 9/11 Cairo protest - The Long War Journal

    Middle East protests: meet the hardline 'tele-Islamist' who brought anti-Islam film to Muslim world's attention - Telegraph
    net result:


    Either the president lied to cover up whatever

    Or

    Is so incompetent as to confuse to different cities in two different countries. There no win for your guy there, and a big, big, need for a full congressional investigation as to why, while the rest of the world laughed, the administration who brags about its spying took almost three weeks to correct its mistake.

    wait, they still haven't admitted they were wrong on the video tape thing...Obama instead simply lied again and said he'd been saying "from the beginning it was a terrorist attack.

    You can' win this...there are too many lies.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I know of no other media in any country that in any way suggested the attack on the anniversary of 911 could be anything other than a terrorist attack. It has only been Obama's White House and the MSM who have in any way given credence to that.

    They cannot back down now though, to admit there might be something there, a possible grain of ugliness, a wrongdoing, even a miscue will doom them for years and certainly in November where they stand to lose everything.

    In the end, politics is about credibility, not truth. Nixon's lemmings were as devout, ignoring a lot and excusing more, using the same arguments in better ways than the Democrats are here and deny, deny, deny.

    But then the credible denial become no longer credible, when the tapes revealed Nixon had no only lied about everything but lied about lying, his supporters had nothing left to shoot with, the lies were no longer believable. They had waited too long to admit even slight wrongdoing.

    This was designed to prop up Obama's steadfast claim he had beaten terrorism, killed Osama and won the hearts and minds of the middle east during a crucial election campaign he surely would have lost had Americans known then what a complete fraud he is. The White House was also in the process of lying to Americans about Obamacare and knew that would be blown open in weeks too....

    There is no way there is not some bad ugliness in this...the fact they are clinging to this day to the absurd idea that a demonstration caused this, and now, tywo years later suddenly are foisting the idea that somehow a demonstration in Cairo was somehow to blame.

    With thin excuses and inept story making like that, desperation is what its about now.
    Nixon supporters, when they learned the extent of his lies, backed off and let him resign before being impeached.

    The Democrats and their supporters will support the lies, with truth and honor not being important factors in their decisions. Instead they will claim to be the victims.

    Nixon tried that tactic as well but it didn't work for very long.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Good luck with that..

    Clnton was a simple sexual predator.. Obama is an enemy of the USA and proud Americans died..
    How sad it is that you would use the deaths of those Americans for political gain.


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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You mean Right Wing Jennifer Rubin, don't you?
    Everyone on the right is lying?


    Odd, with a leader who claimed 40 times what was not, blamed FOR TWO weeks the death of his ambassador on a demonstration that never happened, and lied about saying it was a terrorist attack "from the beginning" that one would contend that anyone and everyone on what you call the "right" cannot be trusted.

    In every government scandal/cover up, the excuses and blame-the-messenger attacks get more vacuous and lame as the truth looms closer.

    For "old news" it's generating more interest than it did when people still liked Obama and it's the people who determine what is news, not the president or his lying little turd Jay Carney.

    For a "nothing", it seems a lot that has been denied is now true....and now as well, Obama and Clinton are looking at a Republican controlled congress with which to fend off.

    Payback is, indeed, a bitch.

    This fire is a long way from out.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post

    Mods: This is not breaking news. It is two years old and there has not been any new reporting by any reputable news source. It should be moved to conspiracy theories or at least non MSM.
    You use the NYTimes as a 'reputable news source' when we now know the facts contradict everything that article claims? It clearly appears to be a planted story.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/wo...tion.html?_r=0
    To Libyans who witnessed the assault and know the attackers, there is little doubt what occurred: a well-known group of local Islamist militants struck the United States Mission without any warning or protest, and they did it in retaliation for the video. That is what the fighters said at the time, speaking emotionally of their anger at the video without mentioning Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the terrorist strikes of 11 years earlier. And it is an explanation that tracks with their history as members of a local militant group determined to protect Libya from Western influence.

    “It was the Ansar al-Shariah people,” said Mohamed Bishari, 20, a neighbor of the compound who watched the assault and described the brigade he saw leading the attack. “There was no protest or anything of that sort.”

    People who carried out the attack claimed it was in retaliation for the video Innocence of Muslims. The people who did it used the video as an excuse after they did it. No, it was not a peaceful protest gone awry but yes it was motivated in large part by the same video which caused the protests in Cairo, Lebanon, Pakistan, Tunisia, etc.. Sure, there were also probably Al Qaeda sympathizers who launched a failed attack the previous June in retaliation for a drone strike killing Abu Yahya al-Libi. But that doesn't account for every single person. To deny that there were people who carried out the attack that weren't motivated by rage over the video is absurd beyond belief..

    The only "lemmings" are those who repeatedly push this "story" which is based on a mountain of falsehoods and lies that would make George Orwell blush. And for what? As Hillary said, does it really matter WHY the attack happened? Would it be less of a tragedy if the attacks were motivated by militant flat earthers? Would it in anyway change the failures in security or intelligence? And if you want to be rude and call someone a lemming, start with the people denying that there were protests in the first place.

    Mods: This is not breaking news. It is two years old and there has not been any new reporting by any reputable news source. It should be moved to conspiracy theories or at least non MSM.


    Sorry, but a two year old New York Times Op ed piece is the "old news" here.

    This is Breaking news as the revelations have just been revealed, that's why they are "revelations".

    Please post this in the "History" or "Fiction" section.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How sad it is that you would use the deaths of those Americans for political gain.
    But that's what the administration did. Aren't you shocked and saddened by that? Or are you one of those 'what difference does it make now' lemmings?

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How sad it is that you would use the deaths of those Americans for political gain.
    How sad is it that Hillary Clinton stood over the bodies of those soldiers and in front of their families lied about a stupid video while knowing it was false for the purposes of Obama's re-election.

    How desperate and lame!

    Obama lied 40 times about health care an countless times about the politically motivated assassination of a diplomat and his lemmings play the political gain card.
    has it ever occurred to you there are people who care about the country and ensuring there is no corruption is more important that an individual's reputation?
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