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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I'm beginning to think he likes it for some reason.

    My point on this part of this issue is in fact what sort of accountability will we have if presidents and the executive branch can spew forth whatever they want for any political purposes, expediency, convenience? With no accountability what so ever? I don't think that this precedence bodes well for the future.
    As some may learn too late. Are we the only country in the world that allows this to continue? Does giving the Oath of Office no longer have any meaning, except for ceremonial purposes? Interesting...

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    As some may learn too late. Are we the only country in the world that allows this to continue? Does giving the Oath of Office no longer have any meaning, except for ceremonial purposes? Interesting...

    Greetings, Erik.
    Seems to be so. A significant threat to the long term stability and honesty of politics in this nation. Such a shame. Politicians lying without any shame.

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    Military intelligence official: 'We should have tried' to help Americans during Benghazi attack | Fox News

    A top military intelligence official in Africa at the time of the Benghazi attacks testified Thursday that U.S. personnel "should have tried" to help Americans under fire on Sept. 11, 2012, in an unprecedented public statement from a leading military officer.

    Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell, who at the time of the attacks was the intelligence director at AFRICOM, questioned the merits of the ongoing debate over whether U.S. military forces could have responded in time. Leading Pentagon and other military officials previously have argued that additional U.S. assets were not deployed to assist Americans under attack that night because they weren't close enough.


    "The point is we should have tried," Lovell told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in his opening statement. "As another saying goes -- always move to the sound of the guns."

    He later said the military "could have made a response of some sort." Lovell made clear repeatedly that the military was waiting for clearance from the State Department to intervene in Benghazi.

    Lovell also sharply countered claims that the intelligence community and military initially thought this was a protest over an anti-Islam video gone awry. He said U.S. officials knew this was a "hostile action" from the outset, even though they didn't know how long the attack would last.

    "This was no demonstration gone terribly awry," Lovell said. "The facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack."

    Under questioning, he also said the Internet video was "briefly discussed" on the ground but "dismissed" as a motive shortly afterward. He said officials soon concluded that Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia was involved.

    The testimony is significant, as it marks the latest effort to lift the curtain behind what happened during the night of the attack and the ensuing days. In a cryptic statement, Lovell cited the need for a "full forthcoming to the American people."

    "I felt it was my duty to come forward," he said. "The circumstances of what occurred there in Benghazi that day need to be known."

    The testimony comes two days after new emails were obtained and released by a watchdog group showing a top White House aide was involved in preparing then-U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances, where she pushed the narrative that protests over an Internet video were to blame.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., at the start of the hearing, ripped the administration over those emails, and accused it of deliberately hiding the documents after an earlier congressional subpoena.

    "It is disturbing and perhaps criminal ... that documents like these were hidden by the Obama administration from Congress and the public alike," Issa said. He claimed the withholding of these documents is the worst transparency violation since at least the Nixon administration.

    One email showed notes from White House adviser Ben Rhodes regarding a "prep call" with Rice; the notes discussed the Internet video as the cause. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed Wednesday that the "prep call" was only in reference to demonstrations elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa, and not Benghazi.
    Sorry, but the former Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, disagrees withe the General.


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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Sorry, but the former Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, disagrees withe the General.
    Robert Gates like Leon Panetta are yes men. It's how they survived a long career in the government.

    Obama only surrounds himself with yes men. That's why everything is so ****ed up today.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Seems to be so. A significant threat to the long term stability and honesty of politics in this nation. Such a shame. Politicians lying without any shame.

    Greetings Polgara
    Politicians have probably always lied, or hidden the truth if it could be a problem - like Roosevelt's paralytic illness which required him to use a wheelchair - something the public never knew until after he died, probably for good reason if you consider international relations. What we have today is not the same thing, IMO. Today, politicians from the top down lie to get elected, lie while in office, and lie when they are caught lying. Isn't this a good way to determine why we are where we are when it's accepted as normal behavior? :

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I'm beginning to think he likes it for some reason.

    My point on this part of this issue is in fact what sort of accountability will we have if presidents and the executive branch can spew forth whatever they want for any political purposes, expediency, convenience? With no accountability what so ever? I don't think that this precedence bodes well for the future.
    Just look at what President Bush did in the autumn on 2002 when he and his administration set forth a campaign to scare the American people about Iraq's WMD so it would make it politically unpopular for Democrats to vote against his resolution to attack Iraq. That was indeed a very costly misadventure. Please save all the quotes and misquotes from Democrats. They wanted the wanted the UN inspectors to complete there job in Iraq.

    Study: Iraq War Cost 190K Lives, $2.2 Trillion | Military.com

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

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    Then what were they doing providing it for Ambassador Stevens?
    They were not. Their response was an ad hoc reaction to an emergency. They at no time were given responsibility for his security.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Just look at what President Bush did in the autumn on 2002 when he and his administration set forth a campaign to scare the American people about Iraq's WMD so it would make it politically unpopular for Democrats to vote against his resolution to attack Iraq. That was indeed a very costly misadventure. Please save all the quotes and misquotes from Democrats. They wanted the wanted the UN inspectors to complete there job in Iraq.

    Study: Iraq War Cost 190K Lives, $2.2 Trillion | Military.com
    And here we go again. Not only Bush but Bush and Iraq! Brought up again by one of the daily, sometimes hourly source of Bushisms aside from Boo Radley. Because there really is no subject a bucket of Bush references sprinkled with Iraq sauce that does not require those ingredients. Some (pardon the pun) seem to *think*.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Robert Gates like Leon Panetta are yes men. It's how they survived a long career in the government.

    Obama only surrounds himself with yes men. That's why everything is so ****ed up today.
    Gates said it after he stepped down from his position as Secretary of Defense, so that is completely wrong.

    And today the situation is much better than it was when Obama became POTUS.

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