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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

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    Are you accusing me of terrorism?

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

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    Then convince me otherwise. Who was involved in the Bengazi attacks? Who coordinated them? Where and when were they planned? What was their motivation?
    That's easy. Ansar Al Sharia was responsible for the attack. Ansar Al Sharia is a Libyan Islamist terror group affiliated with Al Qaeda.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

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    That's easy. Ansar Al Sharia was responsible for the attack. Ansar Al Sharia is a Libyan Islamist terror group affiliated with Al Qaeda.
    Ansar al Sharia is more a label than an organization, one that's been adopted by conservative Salafist groups across the Arab world. The name means, simply, "Partisans of Islamic Law."

    There were certainly Al Qaeda militants in the attack on Benghazi. There were self identified Ansar al Sharia members as well. There were also rioters, looters, and other malcontents who saw what was happening and joined in. Some were terrorists. Some were opportunists. Some were onlookers. And some were involved in the protests which had been blazing through the Islamic world. Some knew ahead of time, some didn't. This is why it was so hard to get a good initial read on the attacks and why there was so much confusion. The attacks on Benghazi were loosely planned, poorly organized, and messy. There isn't an overarching story line here, just a bunch of disparate ones which joined together to carry out a terrible tragedy.

    Did the administration try to put the best spin on what happened? Of course. Did the intelligence community get everything right? Of course not. But it's clear that the administration tried to cast the best intelligence at the time in the best possible light. That's what every politician has been doing since the beginning of time.

    If you want to find fault, look to the reasons why security wasn't better. However, the people responsible will likely be lower level State Department employees, the CIA's questionable activities, congressional budget cuts, ..pretty much everyone except Hillary and Obama. But that's only if you want to figure out what actually happened. If your goal is political spectacle, well.. just insert the actions of Issa.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Ansar al Sharia is more a label than an organization, one that's been adopted by conservative Salafist groups across the Arab world. The name means, simply, "Partisans of Islamic Law."

    There were certainly Al Qaeda militants in the attack on Benghazi. There were self identified Ansar al Sharia members as well. There were also rioters, looters, and other malcontents who saw what was happening and joined in. Some were terrorists. Some were opportunists. Some were onlookers. And some were involved in the protests which had been blazing through the Islamic world. Some knew ahead of time, some didn't. This is why it was so hard to get a good initial read on the attacks and why there was so much confusion. The attacks on Benghazi were loosely planned, poorly organized, and messy. There isn't an overarching story line here, just a bunch of disparate ones which joined together to carry out a terrible tragedy.

    Did the administration try to put the best spin on what happened? Of course. Did the intelligence community get everything right? Of course not. But it's clear that the administration tried to cast the best intelligence at the time in the best possible light. That's what every politician has been doing since the beginning of time.

    If you want to find fault, look to the reasons why security wasn't better. However, the people responsible will likely be lower level State Department employees, the CIA's questionable activities, congressional budget cuts, ..pretty much everyone except Hillary and Obama. But that's only if you want to figure out what actually happened. If your goal is political spectacle, well.. just insert the actions of Issa.
    So it's everybody's fault but the two in charge?? You hyper partisans are pitiful. You would excuse Obama and Clinton if they were caught taking turns on a 3 year old girl.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

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    So it's everybody's fault but the two in charge?? You hyper partisans are pitiful. You would excuse Obama and Clinton if they were caught taking turns on a 3 year old girl.
    If the evidence would lead to Obama or Hillary, I'd be first in line to insist on impeachment. But considering that those are the only lines of inquiry pursued by Issa I think it's quite unlikely.

    Also, accusing someone of excusing child rape isn't very productive.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    If the evidence would lead to Obama or Hillary, I'd be first in line to insist on impeachment. But considering that those are the only lines of inquiry pursued by Issa I think it's quite unlikely.

    Also, accusing someone of excusing child rape isn't very productive.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Ansar al Sharia is more a label than an organization, one that's been adopted by conservative Salafist groups across the Arab world. The name means, simply, "Partisans of Islamic Law."

    There were certainly Al Qaeda militants in the attack on Benghazi. There were self identified Ansar al Sharia members as well. There were also rioters, looters, and other malcontents who saw what was happening and joined in. Some were terrorists. Some were opportunists. Some were onlookers. And some were involved in the protests which had been blazing through the Islamic world. Some knew ahead of time, some didn't. This is why it was so hard to get a good initial read on the attacks and why there was so much confusion. The attacks on Benghazi were loosely planned, poorly organized, and messy. There isn't an overarching story line here, just a bunch of disparate ones which joined together to carry out a terrible tragedy.

    Did the administration try to put the best spin on what happened? Of course. Did the intelligence community get everything right? Of course not. But it's clear that the administration tried to cast the best intelligence at the time in the best possible light. That's what every politician has been doing since the beginning of time.

    If you want to find fault, look to the reasons why security wasn't better. However, the people responsible will likely be lower level State Department employees, the CIA's questionable activities, congressional budget cuts, ..pretty much everyone except Hillary and Obama. But that's only if you want to figure out what actually happened. If your goal is political spectacle, well.. just insert the actions of Issa.
    (sigh) No, there were no "protestors".
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Ansar al Sharia is more a label than an organization, one that's been adopted by conservative Salafist groups across the Arab world. The name means, simply, "Partisans of Islamic Law."

    There were certainly Al Qaeda militants in the attack on Benghazi. There were self identified Ansar al Sharia members as well. There were also rioters, looters, and other malcontents who saw what was happening and joined in. Some were terrorists. Some were opportunists. Some were onlookers. And some were involved in the protests which had been blazing through the Islamic world. Some knew ahead of time, some didn't. This is why it was so hard to get a good initial read on the attacks and why there was so much confusion. The attacks on Benghazi were loosely planned, poorly organized, and messy. There isn't an overarching story line here, just a bunch of disparate ones which joined together to carry out a terrible tragedy.

    Did the administration try to put the best spin on what happened? Of course. Did the intelligence community get everything right? Of course not. But it's clear that the administration tried to cast the best intelligence at the time in the best possible light. That's what every politician has been doing since the beginning of time.

    If you want to find fault, look to the reasons why security wasn't better. However, the people responsible will likely be lower level State Department employees, the CIA's questionable activities, congressional budget cuts, ..pretty much everyone except Hillary and Obama. But that's only if you want to figure out what actually happened. If your goal is political spectacle, well.. just insert the actions of Issa.
    General Ham, the General in charge of Africom was with Panetta when the call came in, they were in Obama's office within 30 minutes.
    Ham categorically states they KNEW it was a terror attack that had NOTHING to do with a silly video.

    This is ALL contained in the Senate Report that was declassified.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    (sigh) No, there were no "protestors".
    So would you would not call someone who was involved in a protest on say 9/10 a protester?

    The attacks did not spontaneously arise out of a protest. But that's not the same thing as saying that no protesters were involved.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    So would you would not call someone who was involved in a protest on say 9/10 a protester?

    The attacks did not spontaneously arise out of a protest. But that's not the same thing as saying that no protesters were involved.
    They knew the attack did not spontaneously arise out of a prorest the entire time.

    Its the crux of the issue.

    Problem is if Obama had been honest he probably would have won anyway.

    It woukd seem that at this WH they're predisposed to liesover truth.

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