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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ ex

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This latest episode suggests that it was the WH lying all along.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The E-mail mentions the Video, 3 days after the Terrorist attack.

    The CIA said the video wasn't part of its talking points.

    So who decided to blame the Benghazzi Terrorist attack on the video when they knew just hours after the attack it wasn't a protest ?

    So the WH wanted Susan Rice to underscore that the attack was due to the reaction from a Internet Video and not a broader policy failure and thats exactly what she did.

    How is that not a scandal ?
    Except the email never says underscore that the attack was due to a reaction from an internet video. The email says to emphasize that the protests were a result of the internet video.

    The video caused the protests. The protests were the motivation for the attack on Bengazi. The only thing Susan Rice said that was incorrect was that the attacks were spontaneous. However, they weren't really pre-planned either; it was something in-between.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The E-mail mentions the Video, 3 days after the Terrorist attack.

    The CIA said the video wasn't part of its talking points.

    So who decided to blame the Benghazzi Terrorist attack on the video when they knew just hours after the attack it wasn't a protest ?

    So the WH wanted Susan Rice to underscore that the attack was due to the reaction from a Internet Video and not a broader policy failure and thats exactly what she did.

    How is that not a scandal ?
    All correct, except that I'd add it was the re-election campaign leaders who injected that meme it would seem, based on a critical reading of the email in question.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Except the email never says underscore that the attack was due to a reaction from an internet video. The email says to emphasize that the protests were a result of the internet video.

    The video caused the protests. The protests were the motivation for the attack on Bengazi. The only thing Susan Rice said that was incorrect was that the attacks were spontaneous. However, they weren't really pre-planned either; it was something in-between.
    This is by far the most 'administration generous' reading of the events. And yet it still doesn't mitigate the campaign leader's influencing (dictating? demanding?) that Rice, and administration official, deliver the desired political message. That, my friends, is a classic case of a Hatch Act violation, is it not?
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    This is by far the most 'administration generous' reading of the events. And yet it still doesn't mitigate the campaign leader's influencing (dictating? demanding?) that Rice, and administration official, deliver the desired political message. That, my friends, is a classic case of a Hatch Act violation, is it not?
    Then convince me otherwise. Who was involved in the Bengazi attacks? Who coordinated them? Where and when were they planned? What was their motivation?

    What really bothers me about this nonsense is that I had family that served in Iraq. The first thing I'd do every day is to check the days casualty list. Every single day I'd see 5, 10, 20 names. Every few weeks there' be a report saying that 5-10 soldiers were killed from a certain division and battalion in a really bad attack; with names withheld pending notification of the family. And so you'd spend the next day or so hoping that the names were released before you got that dreaded phone call. Hopefully someone else would have to bear the highest cost. You'd morn the loss of life, but were also relieved that it wasn't your loved one. And were it not for a some militants failing to arm a mortar shell before they fired it and an IED blowing just right... I'd be in the same boat as those other families.

    So to go through that, all the while listening to people defend a war sold under false premises in which troops weren't properly prepared or equipped. Now the very same people are trying to invent a scandal out of Benghazi for political gain. Yes; Benghazi was a tragedy. Yes the security should have been better. But four dead Americans wouldn't have made much news during the height of the Iraq war.

    And before anyone else starts on this completely fake rant of "think of the four dead Americans" I'd like to point out that the entire focus of the conservative faux-rage has been focused on Obama and Hillary and none of it on what we did wrong and how we can fix it in the future. None. The lives of those killed in Benghazi mean nothing; they're just political pawns to be paraded about.. Look! Obama is a failure! See the dead bodies! It's completely disgusting.

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Except the email never says underscore that the attack was due to a reaction from an internet video. The email says to emphasize that the protests were a result of the internet video.

    The video caused the protests. The protests were the motivation for the attack on Bengazi. The only thing Susan Rice said that was incorrect was that the attacks were spontaneous. However, they weren't really pre-planned either; it was something in-between.
    First the E-mail distinctly mentioned the video and that it was a Prep for Susan Rice a day before she went out and lied about the nature of these attacks.

    Why would Susan Rice go on 5 morning talk shows ? Because 4 Americans died in Benghazzi.

    THAT was the relevant issue at the time.

    It was not to prep her for Cairo or any other protest.

    Second, if it was just a benign E-mail discussing the WHs ME Policies, why was it redacted when it was sent to the Senate Committee that investigated the BENGHAZZI attack ?

    Why did it take a Court Order to get it rleleased ?

    No one believes Obama's side of the story save for a few highly influenced partisans, so why do you keep repeating your lies ?

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    All correct, except that I'd add it was the re-election campaign leaders who injected that meme it would seem, based on a critical reading of the email in question.
    Regardless of who injected the meme, the WH and Hillary and their fellow Democrats and supporters ran with it.

    To perpetuate the lie IMO is just as dishonest as starting the lie.

    What kind of man or President would entertained the idea of perpetuating a false narrative over the deaths of four Americans ?

    And only because it was Politically expedient ?

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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Except the email never says underscore that the attack was due to a reaction from an internet video. The email says to emphasize that the protests were a result of the internet video.

    The video caused the protests. The protests were the motivation for the attack on Bengazi. The only thing Susan Rice said that was incorrect was that the attacks were spontaneous. However, they weren't really pre-planned either; it was something in-between.
    This post falls under the category of "damned lies". We haven't caught or interrogated a single perpetrator of the attack and here Mithros is giving detailed motivations for the attack and the planning of it as if he helped plan it.

    The attack was not motivated by the video, there was no protest at the consulate, the attack came on 9/11 for a reason.

    They had a months warning, and did nothing. They learned very quickly that it was not a protest gone bad and they said so anyway, and when the bullets were flying and the future of all the consulate staff was still in doubt our president did nothing. Our Secretary of State did nothing.

    There was apparently more talk about the political fall out than the dead or dying Americans.

    Hillary was right to question Obama's ability to answer the 3:00am call. But she obviously was obviously incapable as well.

    Contrast: Obama orders the SEALs to take out Bin Laden and he was in the situation room. Within 24 hours they WH had spilled TOO MANY details of the operation to the press including photos of a stern Obama watching the attack take place. On the other side we have Benghazi where the president did nothing, was nowhere to be seen, too little apparent interest in his dying ambassador, and over a year later they are still dragging their feat.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This post falls under the category of "damned lies". We haven't caught or interrogated a single perpetrator of the attack and here Mithros is giving detailed motivations for the attack and the planning of it as if he helped plan it.

    The attack was not motivated by the video, there was no protest at the consulate, the attack came on 9/11 for a reason.

    They had a months warning, and did nothing. They learned very quickly that it was not a protest gone bad and they said so anyway, and when the bullets were flying and the future of all the consulate staff was still in doubt our president did nothing. Our Secretary of State did nothing.

    There was apparently more talk about the political fall out than the dead or dying Americans.

    Hillary was right to question Obama's ability to answer the 3:00am call. But she obviously was obviously incapable as well.

    Contrast: Obama orders the SEALs to take out Bin Laden and he was in the situation room. Within 24 hours they WH had spilled TOO MANY details of the operation to the press including photos of a stern Obama watching the attack take place. On the other side we have Benghazi where the president did nothing, was nowhere to be seen, too little apparent interest in his dying ambassador, and over a year later they are still dragging their feat.
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    Re: Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Regardless of who injected the meme, the WH and Hillary and their fellow Democrats and supporters ran with it.

    To perpetuate the lie IMO is just as dishonest as starting the lie.

    What kind of man or President would entertained the idea of perpetuating a false narrative over the deaths of four Americans ?

    And only because it was Politically expedient ?
    Fenton, you ask what kind of a man or president perpetuates false narratives for political expediency?

    I've give you Obama. He has established a long track record of doing exactly that, seemingly from the moment he took office on just about every topic he speaks to.

    What kind of a president does that make him? Not a very good one in my view. Worse than president Carter, of the modern presidents.

    What kind of a man does that make him? I dunno. I'm rather suspecting that it doesn't make him a good one, but I have no first hand knowledge of the man himself.
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