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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No, its more like your crowd doesn't believe in personal responsibility. What you are really advocating is that people be free of the consequences of their choosing to exercise their free speech rights. No one is curtailing Sterling at all. He remains free to say whatever the hell he wants.
    By that notion, it would be ok by you for the government to punish public speech.

    The reality, is that you people are all for personal responsibility, as long as it's someone you like. I havent seen any calls for Jesse Jackson to be banned from all NBA events.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And you think getting a DUI is on the same level? How about wearing a belt that doesn't match the shoes?
    No I do not, but I can tell you that when I was a professionally licensed insurance agent had I gotten one the state could have suspended or revoked it. Here is what concerns me, the commissioner is asking the owners to act "in the best interests of the league". While I feel that he has a very valid point, it is chilling to think of "the league's best interests" being expanded to the cause du jour. At the end of the day, the man said horrible things but still has property at stake.



    That's BS.
    It's a valid concern.



    Yes, it does. You're pretending that minor crap will be treated the same. This clearly implies that racism is a minor thing, or at least comparable. That's minimizing racism.
    It's just thinking ahead. I listened to some people saying in media that Orlando's owner "could be a target" because he supports traditional marriage and the owners don't like his stance either. So that is another issue "to be dealt with at a later time", there are lots of things that aren't PC that a lot of people could be "guilty" of. Sterling well may deserve the vote against him, but it could set a precedent of eliminating anyone who doesn't tow the line.


    They shouldn't force him to sell. They should disenfranchise him, leaving him with nothing to sell.
    I don't know if that's even feasible under the charter, but then you have a vacuum in that a team just disappears, that would hurt the league just as much with relocation, finding ownership, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No I do not, but I can tell you that when I was a professionally licensed insurance agent had I gotten one the state could have suspended or revoked it. Here is what concerns me, the commissioner is asking the owners to act "in the best interests of the league". While I feel that he has a very valid point, it is chilling to think of "the league's best interests" being expanded to the cause du jour. At the end of the day, the man said horrible things but still has property at stake.
    So what. "Freedom of association" remember??

    It's a valid concern.
    It's not a valid concern. It's a private organization and they can do what they want. Such action requires 75% of the owners to agree. Who the hell are you to decide what's best for them and their private organization?

    It's just thinking ahead. I listened to some people saying in media that Orlando's owner "could be a target" because he supports traditional marriage and the owners don't like his stance either. So that is another issue "to be dealt with at a later time", there are lots of things that aren't PC that a lot of people could be "guilty" of. Sterling well may deserve the vote against him, but it could set a precedent of eliminating anyone who doesn't tow the line.
    Good! It's the organization's right. I don't see you complaining about churches excluding gays. You SUPPORT racial discrimination in business. But NOW you have a problem with "freedom of association"? Why? Because now it's the scumbags that are getting a taste of it?

    I don't know if that's even feasible under the charter, but then you have a vacuum in that a team just disappears, that would hurt the league just as much with relocation, finding ownership, etc.
    I heard they can disenfranchise him. The void would be nothing. People are falling over each other to get this kind of a trophy possession.

    I think it's the right thing to do. 2.5m is nothing, but 500m would be the kick in the pants he deserves.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So what. "Freedom of association" remember??
    Just association I agree. We are talking about a property issue though so it gets more complex.



    It's not a valid concern. It's a private organization and they can do what they want. Such action requires 75% of the owners to agree. Who the hell are you to decide what's best for them and their private organization?
    They can do as they wish, it isn't my consequence to bear. I can also point out the potential pitfalls.


    Good! It's the organization's right. I don't see you complaining about churches excluding gays. You SUPPORT racial discrimination in business. But NOW you have a problem with "freedom of association"? Why? Because now it's the scumbags that are getting a taste of it?
    I support property rights even when I think a decision is unfair or outright stupid, I can see more than one side of issues.



    I heard they can disenfranchise him. The void would be nothing. People are falling over each other to get this kind of a trophy possession.
    They may be able to, I'm not all that familiar with their charter and still learning stuff about it.
    I think it's the right thing to do. 2.5m is nothing, but 500m would be the kick in the pants he deserves.
    The guy is a billionaire, I don't really think he would care about that more than just being forced to sell.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Just association I agree. We are talking about a property issue though so it gets more complex.
    There's no complexity. He signed a contract.

    They can do as they wish, it isn't my consequence to bear. I can also point out the potential pitfalls.
    But it's not a potential pitfall. It's just minimizing racism.

    I support property rights even when I think a decision is unfair or outright stupid, I can see more than one side of issues.
    Do you also support people being held to contracts they sign?

    They may be able to, I'm not all that familiar with their charter and still learning stuff about it.
    The guy is a billionaire, I don't really think he would care about that more than just being forced to sell.
    Oh, I think he'd care about losing nearly a third of his wealth. The NBA should do it.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Okay, so the next issue becomes gay marriage, Orlando's owner is a traditionalist so he could be next.
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the NBA's customer base is more black than it is gay
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