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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    First Amendment rights do not enter into this scenario at all.
    True, except that there seems to be some people who disagree with such concepts.

    What's next, thought police?

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    True, except that there seems to be some people who disagree with such concepts.

    What's next, thought police?
    "Thought Police" is just another meaningless buzzword.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Thought Police" is just another meaningless buzzword.
    Ignorance drives the discussion in these things when they say things like this.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If they start voting people out..............well, everyone could get a turn at the chopping block sooner or later for just about anything.
    That's not true. You're presuming that 75% of the owners would be willing to go along with a frivolous action. Really, you're belittling what Sterling did and is, as if it could be "just about anything". Like what he did is really not a big deal. Why are you downplaying what he did?


    The NBA should disenfranchise him, leaving him with nothing - a total loss. Someone else can build a new team in LA.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's not true. You're presuming that 75% of the owners would be willing to go along with a frivolous action. Really, you're belittling what Sterling did and is, as if it could be "just about anything". Like what he did is really not a big deal. Why are you downplaying what he did?


    The NBA should disenfranchise him, leaving him with nothing - a total loss. Someone else can build a new team in LA.
    Okay, so the next issue becomes gay marriage, Orlando's owner is a traditionalist so he could be next. Then when that is settled there could be a war on drunk driving, the NBA gets on board and an owner slips up and gets caught DWI, that becomes a morals clause violation and then the owners decide "in the best interest of the league" that he shouldn't own a team anymore. Next thing you know, an owner forgets to take a gun out of his suitcase traveling and he "disgraced the league", someone might say something a little too harsh concerning Obama, or may question an action by the active commissioner of the league................................

    What Sterling did was reprehensible, there isn't a question about that, and he already got smacked down hard by not being able to participate in his teams anything, plus a 2.5M$ fine. Taking his team by decree is on the table now and because it's a majority vote, any owner could slip up in any way that isn't PC and face the same fate. Honestly, he is going to probably have to sell without that vote because he is going to lose his customer base, let the market decide that.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Okay, so the next issue becomes gay marriage, Orlando's owner is a traditionalist so he could be next. Then when that is settled there could be a war on drunk driving, the NBA gets on board and an owner slips up and gets caught DWI, that becomes a morals clause violation and then the owners decide "in the best interest of the league" that he shouldn't own a team anymore. Next thing you know, an owner forgets to take a gun out of his suitcase traveling and he "disgraced the league", someone might say something a little too harsh concerning Obama, or may question an action by the active commissioner of the league................................
    You're just belittling what Sterling did. You're trying to equate it to minor things. You're apologizing for racism. You're pretending racism is not a big deal. Perhaps it's not, for you, but it is for the rest of us. We don't consider it a minor sociological thing and we don't compare it to drunk driving.

    What's next, you're gonna compare racism to a stubbed toe? Perhaps we should compare it to wearing red. You know, just to make it absolutely clear that we don't think it's a problem.

    And if the NBA decides to become ultra-PC... too bad. It's a private organization. Why do all the racist cries of "freedom of association" vaporize when it's a racist that no one wants anything to do with? Oooh... I know! Because racists are full of crap.


    Freedom of association!! Except... racists must be tolerated in private organizations!!

    Hypocritical scumbags.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Honestly, he is going to probably have to sell without that vote because he is going to lose his customer base, let the market decide that.
    This is all the farther anyone should expect. Those of you wanting more, maybe you should check you vengeance...

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're just belittling what Sterling did. You're trying to equate it to minor things. You're apologizing for racism. You're pretending racism is not a big deal. Perhaps it's not, for you, but it is for the rest of us. We don't consider it a minor sociological thing and we don't compare it to drunk driving.
    No, I've used the words reprehensible, abhorrent, horrible, racist, and scumbag to describe the actions and character of the man and I stand by every one of those. What I think people need to realize is that even in the face of the disgusting things he said, precedents can be used to expand this to others later so be careful how you treat this case, that in no way minimizes the awful things Sterling said, IOW, him being banned and the fine, I'm good with, forcing him to sell by league decree may be a bit too far and the market is going to do that anyway.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No, I've used the words reprehensible, abhorrent, horrible, racist, and scumbag to describe the actions and character of the man and I stand by every one of those.
    And you think getting a DUI is on the same level? How about wearing a belt that doesn't match the shoes?

    What I think people need to realize is that even in the face of the disgusting things he said, precedents can be used to expand this to others later so be careful how you treat this case,
    That's BS. First, you're making false comparisons resulting in the minimizing of racism. Second, it's a private organization. What happened to "freedom to associate!!11!!"

    that in no way minimizes the awful things Sterling said,
    Yes, it does. You're pretending that minor crap will be treated the same. This clearly implies that racism is a minor thing, or at least comparable. That's minimizing racism.

    IOW, him being banned and the fine, I'm good with, forcing him to sell by league decree may be a bit too far and the market is going to do that anyway.
    They shouldn't force him to sell. They should disenfranchise him, leaving him with nothing to sell. Someone can build a new team and he gets nothing.

    Flush 500m of his, see what he thinks about that.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Ignorance drives the discussion in these things when they say things like this.
    Only if your thought don't line up with the liberals. Otherwise everyone is a bigot racist and redneck.

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