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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    What happened to him isn't right because it was illegal surveillance, but because he is a public figure with a franchise he does have to be careful. I'm not a big fan of the PC movement and the "destroy the view that offends us" mentality but right now it is prevalent. The guy is a jerk, he had a right to say it, and the league has a right to protect itself.
    Yes the guy is a jerk and the same people who came down on his private conversation that was exposed have known it for 30 years. Yes this is a franchise but if they want to claim racism will not be tolerated they damn well better run out in front of those microphones and demand the Nicks get rid of Johnson for his racist comments. You can't have a white man get hammered and let the black man off the hook for the same and expect anyone to take you seriously. And if this damn PC crap is allowed to continue want to place a bet here in the near future that Rich Divos owner of the Orlando Magics who happens to have donated and supported some of the greatest causes in this country, but it won't matter cause he doesn't have his mind Politically Correct on gay marriage. He doesn't support it. Care to make a wager this billionaire will be next to meet the guillotine over Political Correctness in regard to the NBA? You better start standing up for those you don't agree with personally and stop allowing this railroading to continue. Because some day the Political Correct Elite aren't going to like how you think about something and they will be after you. Nuff said.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes the guy is a jerk and the same people who came down on his private conversation that was exposed have known it for 30 years. Yes this is a franchise but if they want to claim racism will not be tolerated they damn well better run out in front of those microphones and demand the Nicks get rid of Johnson for his racist comments. You can't have a white man get hammered and let the black man off the hook for the same and expect anyone to take you seriously. And if this damn PC crap is allowed to continue want to place a bet here in the near future that Rich Divos owner of the Orlando Magics who happens to have donated and supported some of the greatest causes in this country, but it won't matter cause he doesn't have his mind Politically Correct on gay marriage. He doesn't support it. Care to make a wager this billionaire will be next to meet the guillotine over Political Correctness in regard to the NBA? You better start standing up for those you don't agree with personally and allow this railroading to continue. Because some day the Political Correct Elite aren't going to like how you think about something and they will be after you. Nuff said.
    The owners should be EXTREMELY careful about their vote, a lot of them could find themselves on the chopping block and voting to force a sale would set a bad precedent, I agree with you all the way on this. Personally, I think the PC police need to shut their yaps and leave people alone, but until more people demand they do so and return to laughing at them for the wimps they are.................people need to be careful.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The owners should be EXTREMELY careful about their vote, a lot of them could find themselves on the chopping block and voting to force a sale would set a bad precedent, I agree with you all the way on this. Personally, I think the PC police need to shut their yaps and leave people alone, but until more people demand they do so and return to laughing at them for the wimps they are.................people need to be careful.
    The owners will be careful but must consider that a "keep the racist in the club" vote will likely hurt their revenue with sponsors and may put themselves under even greater scrutiny.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The owners will be careful but must consider that a "keep the racist in the club" vote will likely hurt their revenue with sponsors and may put themselves under even greater scrutiny.
    The best thing they could do is just let the guy implode, as long as people know that he holds those opinions his team's leverage is shot in the market so he'll probably sell naturally as it devalues. If they start voting people out..............well, everyone could get a turn at the chopping block sooner or later for just about anything.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's part of the contract he signs to be a member of the NBA and have his team play and make him those billions of dollars. While not everything in a contract is necessarily enforceable simply because you sign it willingly, I'm not aware of any particular law that would be broken by enforcing the contract against him.
    I don't know either but it seems to me the man has been an owner for 33 years, there has only been one incident that I'm aware of where racism was claimed against him related to the team and that was with Elgin Baylor who was fired and by all accounts was a horrible GM. It is also true that the rules of "ownership" may have been altered several times during his 33 years owning the team and he may not have voted for any of the changes and this may be the first time he's had issue to challenge those rules in court. It is also true, at least in my view, that it would be impossible for an owner of a business to be banned for life from entering the establishment and participating in running that business. A court may be able to do so, but an employee of a corporation banning a boss - can't see it standing up. Finally, I can't see a business, outside of a court ruling, being forced to divest itself of assets, potentially at significant loss.

    I fully support a significant suspension and fine for the man, but this is over the top - I also find it extreme as a first penalty - and I also find it extreme considering the lack of NBA league action against others with similar views who participate in and attend their games, including the owner of the Orlando Magic and his anti-gay views.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Spike Lee hasn't signed an agreement with the NBA. The NBA can't punish him
    I'm not so sure the NBA can punish Sterling either. I tried to find the NBA constitution online and wasn't able to, it's apparently a super secret document but I did find this

    http://deadspin.com/heres-the-secret...rli-1568842613

    I'm not sure if article 35 is what Silver used as his only justification but it looks pretty clear to me that article 35 refers to disciplining of players, not owners.

    Interesting to see what Sterling, who's pretty sue happy from what I've read, will do.
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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    This is insane.

    Looks like I will now boycott the NBA for revoking a person's first amendment rights in what is assumed to be a private conversation.

    I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks this guy should be punished over this is an absolute fool.

    Yes, I am asking for moderator punishment, but seriously... This has to be said...

    This was racial. Not racist. Anyone over reacting to this should be ignored as a fool.
    First Amendment rights do not enter into this scenario at all.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I really have mixed emotions on this issue...What Sterling said was horrible and a truly racist statement but on the other hand what happened to the first amendment and freedom of speech especially in the privacy of his home that you on the left are always citing?
    Once again.....people trying to claim "free speech" in supporting racism, bigotry and intolerance. Why do you guys always try to shirk personal responsibility? No one is infringing on Sterlings Free Speech rights. He remains free to say whatever the hell he wants. What he isn't free to do....is be free of the consequences that come as a result of his choosing to exercise his free speech rights.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The PC crowd doesnt believe in free speech.
    No, its more like your crowd doesn't believe in personal responsibility. What you are really advocating is that people be free of the consequences of their choosing to exercise their free speech rights. No one is curtailing Sterling at all. He remains free to say whatever the hell he wants.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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