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Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

Except for the fact that Donald Sterling is an actual racist, so in this case this is irrelevant.

As he has been publicly for most of your life. This private phone call with his black call-girl friend changed nothing.

Does anyone find issue with a young, pretty black girl dating an 81-year-old known racist for his money?
 
In what world is Larry Johnson a NY Knick great?
 
I have learned we have many folks who are so racially sensitive they see it where there is none.

Now, if you had anyone in any sport say the following and used "white" instead of black, what would the fallout be?

Another question... would you be for or against an league that as its qualifying factor is race?

If he did this then it is ridiculous. You do not fight discrimination with segregating yourself from your white fellow basketball players, you remove the racist elements from the NBA. The problem is not with the Clippers, the fans, the players or most of the NBA owners it is with this racist moron who owns the Clippers. Creating a separate black league will achieve nothing but a worse product in basketball for black and white players and black/white fans in America.
 
Quick questions:

1. What percentage of NBA owners are privately racist?

2. What percentage of NBA players are inwardly racist?

All this hullaballoo over an 81-year-old racist man's private phone call rant to his sugar-baby girlfriend. I mean, what really NEW happened here?
 
Quick questions:

1. What percentage of NBA owners are privately racist?

2. What percentage of NBA players are inwardly racist?

All this hullaballoo over an 81-year-old racist man's private phone call rant to his sugar-baby girlfriend. I mean, what really NEW happened here?

It was recorded.
 
So does that mean there would also be an all-white league, an all-Asian league, and so on?
Nope. It means there would be an all-black league.
 
Nope. It means there would be an all-black league.


Yeah, what was I thinking... obviously we can't have an all-white league, that would be racist.


Wait...


:mrgreen:
 
If you can't figure it out, there is no point in trying to explain it to you.

Hey... you brought it up, I went ahead and posted his statement. Now... go copy, paste and illustrate where what he said is racist.

It's a nice try to weasel out of the corner you painted yourself in, but that 3rd grade debate tactic doesn't fly in the big leagues junior.

So... man up and prove your point instead of balking.
 
Except for the fact that Donald Sterling is an actual racist, so in this case this is irrelevant.

Not denying he is a racist, just pointing out how some drop the race card with ease. It's been a common feature of the past 5-years.
 
Isn't his mistress half black half Hispanic ?

Your point? A lot of slaveowners back in the day dipped their wick in the "help." Are you going to say that's evidence that they weren't racist?
 
If he did this then it is ridiculous. You do not fight discrimination with segregating yourself from your white fellow basketball players, you remove the racist elements from the NBA. The problem is not with the Clippers, the fans, the players or most of the NBA owners it is with this racist moron who owns the Clippers. Creating a separate black league will achieve nothing but a worse product in basketball for black and white players and black/white fans in America.

Well Peter,
We seem to agree on something. But isn't free speech wonderful? One racist seems to have outed another.

BTW... your crystal ball... who will win tonight... Real or Bayern? I ask about your crystal ball because you seem to have predicted Ajax will win in 20111 :) See your sig line.
 
Yeah, what was I thinking... obviously we can't have an all-white league, that would be racist.


Wait...


:mrgreen:

From my calculation... we could have everything but an all-white league.
 
Hey... you brought it up, I went ahead and posted his statement. Now... go copy, paste and illustrate where what he said is racist.

It's a nice try to weasel out of the corner you painted yourself in, but that 3rd grade debate tactic doesn't fly in the big leagues junior.

So... man up and prove your point instead of balking.

You know what part of his comments were racist.
 
You know what part of his comments were racist.
Go and copy the statement, and bold the racist part(s).

It cannot be that difficult for a genius like you... so junior... hop to it... you made the claim, the least you can do is back up your accusations of racism.

Here... to make it easy for you.

... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
 
You know what part of his comments were racist.

See, you've picked a piece of an overall quote, isolated it, eliminated its context, and put it up for all to see as its own free-standing quote.

That's entirely unfair to the man.

The dude needs to pay his debt, but the way the media has construed his quote without proper context is criminal.
 
Go and copy the statement, and bold the racist part(s).

It cannot be that difficult for a genius like you... so junior... hop to it... you made the claim, the least you can do is back up your accusations of racism.

Here... to make it easy for you.

Stop pretending you don't know.
 
See, you've picked a piece of an overall quote, isolated it, eliminated its context, and put it up for all to see as its own free-standing quote.

That's entirely unfair to the man.

The dude needs to pay his debt, but the way the media has construed his quote without proper context is criminal.

Please quote where I did this.
 
Stop pretending you don't know.

You are balking and it is obvious why... it is a simple task... why not get the job done.

Please quote where I did this.

Then... J'us du ette. Here is the quote again:

... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
 
So the Knicks want to fight racism with more racism? Human nature fails again.
 
Thanks for the laughs, guys.
 
Stupid people are just talking up a storm right now in the NBA.
 
Well Peter,
We seem to agree on something. But isn't free speech wonderful? One racist seems to have outed another.

BTW... your crystal ball... who will win tonight... Real or Bayern? I ask about your crystal ball because you seem to have predicted Ajax will win in 20111 :) See your sig line.

I think Real will go through, Bayern is not as dominant in Europe as it was in Germany. This is the year of the Spanish clubs in the Champions League IMHO. And my sig line is to show that Ajax this weekend won the Championship for the 4th time in a row (33rd championship in the history of the club). The first time in the row of championship victories was 2011 and after that they won in 2012, 2013 and now in 2014. You can see that there are three stars about the logo of my club (in my avatar), a club can add a star if they have reached 10 championships, 2 stars means a minimum of 20 championships and so on. PSV for example has 2 stars and Feyenoord has 1 star.

Maybe they can do something similar in US sports to honor the best teams like the NHL teams Detroit Redwings and Toronto who have won more 10 or more championships. Or in the NBA the Celtics and Lakers who would also be allowed to have a star to show 10 or more championships. Or in MLB the Yankees with 2 stars and the Cardinals with 1 star. But that is what I think would be cool for teams to show how successful they were in the past. For Ajax who hovered on 29 championships for years it was an explosion of joy and pride when they were able to add that third star on their jersey/logo.
 
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