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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    You know what part of his comments were racist.
    Go and copy the statement, and bold the racist part(s).

    It cannot be that difficult for a genius like you... so junior... hop to it... you made the claim, the least you can do is back up your accusations of racism.

    Here... to make it easy for you.

    ... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

    Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

    Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

    And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

    You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

    Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    You know what part of his comments were racist.
    See, you've picked a piece of an overall quote, isolated it, eliminated its context, and put it up for all to see as its own free-standing quote.

    That's entirely unfair to the man.

    The dude needs to pay his debt, but the way the media has construed his quote without proper context is criminal.

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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Go and copy the statement, and bold the racist part(s).

    It cannot be that difficult for a genius like you... so junior... hop to it... you made the claim, the least you can do is back up your accusations of racism.

    Here... to make it easy for you.
    Stop pretending you don't know.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    See, you've picked a piece of an overall quote, isolated it, eliminated its context, and put it up for all to see as its own free-standing quote.

    That's entirely unfair to the man.

    The dude needs to pay his debt, but the way the media has construed his quote without proper context is criminal.
    Please quote where I did this.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Stop pretending you don't know.
    You are balking and it is obvious why... it is a simple task... why not get the job done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Please quote where I did this.
    Then... J'us du ette. Here is the quote again:

    ... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

    Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

    Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

    And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

    You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

    Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Please quote where I did this.
    The whole damn thread.

    Stop being obtuse.

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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    So the Knicks want to fight racism with more racism? Human nature fails again.

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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Thanks for the laughs, guys.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Stupid people are just talking up a storm right now in the NBA.
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    Re: Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well Peter,
    We seem to agree on something. But isn't free speech wonderful? One racist seems to have outed another.

    BTW... your crystal ball... who will win tonight... Real or Bayern? I ask about your crystal ball because you seem to have predicted Ajax will win in 20111 See your sig line.
    I think Real will go through, Bayern is not as dominant in Europe as it was in Germany. This is the year of the Spanish clubs in the Champions League IMHO. And my sig line is to show that Ajax this weekend won the Championship for the 4th time in a row (33rd championship in the history of the club). The first time in the row of championship victories was 2011 and after that they won in 2012, 2013 and now in 2014. You can see that there are three stars about the logo of my club (in my avatar), a club can add a star if they have reached 10 championships, 2 stars means a minimum of 20 championships and so on. PSV for example has 2 stars and Feyenoord has 1 star.

    Maybe they can do something similar in US sports to honor the best teams like the NHL teams Detroit Redwings and Toronto who have won more 10 or more championships. Or in the NBA the Celtics and Lakers who would also be allowed to have a star to show 10 or more championships. Or in MLB the Yankees with 2 stars and the Cardinals with 1 star. But that is what I think would be cool for teams to show how successful they were in the past. For Ajax who hovered on 29 championships for years it was an explosion of joy and pride when they were able to add that third star on their jersey/logo.
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