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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We'll see.
    I don't know whether I would like an "opportunist," if I am gauging the word correctly. I could not whole-heartedly trust someone who spent his life being a member of one party, usually because of ideology, to have them change because that party has fallen out of favor. I certainly would not have them privy to any strategies the "welcoming" party might have, if it could be used against them to defeat them. The same could be said about what the "goodbye" party might be planning, strategy-wise, but how could you know if anything said about their plans is the truth or not?

    I don't know if what I have posted even makes sense to me, but I hope what I am trying to say is clear. Maybe "trust, but verify" fits here?

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I don't know whether I would like an "opportunist," if I am gauging the word correctly. I could not whole-heartedly trust someone who spent his life being a member of one party, usually because of ideology, to have them change because that party has fallen out of favor. I certainly would not have them privy to any strategies the "welcoming" party might have, if it could be used against them to defeat them. The same could be said about what the "goodbye" party might be planning, strategy-wise, but how could you know if anything said about their plans is the truth or not?

    I don't know if what I have posted even makes sense to me, but I hope what I am trying to say is clear. Maybe "trust, but verify" fits here?
    King ran as an independent and won the governorship of Maine, then ran again as an independent winning his senate seat in 2012, so he really hasn't affiliated himself with either until he won the senate seat and announced he would caucus with the Democrats. Although he has basically been an independent he did decide to join the Democrats in the senate if only to caucus with him, but by doing so he is an independent in name only, not a true independent. Sanders from Vermont is the other so called independent. Both as voted the party line, so as far as I am concerned he is a Democrat.

    Yes what you said made sense to me and I feel the same way. If King was a true independent, he would not have caucus with either party and would have voted his conscious and the way the people of Maine wanted him to. I am sure even if he changed his stripes and now loyalty after the 2014 elections, the republicans would welcome him with open arms. Especially if the senate is tied 50-50 or the GOP won only 5 seats and needed that sixth one to take control. But I doubt if King would switch then, if he does the GOP would have to pick up their six seats to take a 51-49 lead, then King might switch to make it 52-48.

    But what to do with him in 2016? The Republicans have 24 seats up for re-election that year vs. only 10 for the Democrats. Chances are even if the GOP wins the senate this year, they will lose it in 2016, does King do another switcheroo going back to caucus with the Democrats?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'd like to see how many of those 200 House bills have legislative riders and poison pills.
    Even better is when McConnell filibusters his own GOP House's bills as they play ping-pong with difficult votes.
    Ultimately, the Greedy Obstructionist Pout is their filibuster on Legislation.
    Sen. Reid needs to NUKE that option also .
    How do you know what was in the House Bills? As for filibustering a bill they have to be presented before being filibustered

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'd like to see how many of those 200 House bills have legislative riders and poison pills.
    Even better is when McConnell filibusters his own GOP House's bills as they play ping-pong with difficult votes.
    Ultimately, the Greedy Obstructionist Pout is their filibuster on Legislation.
    Sen. Reid needs to NUKE that option also .
    Yeah, that was priceless.

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to get it, national polls don't elect Senators or House Members. one of these days you may just take a civics class. Then you will have some credibility.
    ...and there is no gerrymandering to get senators elected.
    One day YOU might get that.

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Buck, you don't seem to grasp reality, Gerrymandering has been going on for well over a Century but that isn't the issue at all. People other than die hard Democrats do change and that reduces the effect of Gerrymandering. Why would anyone Support Obama today? I grew up a Democrat, voted Democrat until Carter and that Democrat Party left me. There isn't anything in today's Democrat Party that would cause me to come back. The party of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid say it all.

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

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    Buck, you don't seem to grasp reality, Gerrymandering has been going on for well over a Century but that isn't the issue at all. People other than die hard Democrats do change and that reduces the effect of Gerrymandering. Why would anyone Support Obama today? I grew up a Democrat, voted Democrat until Carter and that Democrat Party left me. There isn't anything in today's Democrat Party that would cause me to come back. The party of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid say it all.
    As important as you think you are ...the Democratic party will do fine without you.
    Here's a reality check for YOU con...
    Gerrymandering of local districts is the ONLY reason why the republicons hold the house right now. The aggregate vote across America for representatives is Democratic and growing. Gerrymandering can have no effect on Senate seats and GOP voter suppression legislation will suppress just as many hillbilly tea party votes as it will inner city Democratic votes. No net gain for the republicons
    America is undergoing a dramatic shift in voter demographics and the republicons are always coming down on the wrong side of racism. That is a losing combination for the Geee Ohhh Peee in all upcoming elections.

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    As important as you think you are ...the Democratic party will do fine without you.
    Here's a reality check for YOU con...
    Gerrymandering of local districts is the ONLY reason why the republicons hold the house right now. The aggregate vote across America for representatives is Democratic and growing. Gerrymandering can have no effect on Senate seats and GOP voter suppression legislation will suppress just as many hillbilly tea party votes as it will inner city Democratic votes. No net gain for the republicons
    America is undergoing a dramatic shift in voter demographics and the republicons are always coming down on the wrong side of racism. That is a losing combination for the Geee Ohhh Peee in all upcoming elections.
    Sorry, but the only people I am important to are my family and I couldn't care less what you think about me. Yes, the Democrat Party will exist long enough to try and destroy the foundation upon which this country was built and people like you will always view the grass greener on the other side until you get there.

    Social responsibility rests with the family and the local communities not the Federal Govt. Apparently history is foreign to you as no socialist country in the world has any success story to tout. You will always look for utopia and never find it especially with your ideology

    You put too much emphasis now on Gerrymandering and none whatsoever on the fact that Republicans took over the House in 1994 for the first time in 40 years and did so not because of Gerrymandering but because of ideas like the Contract with America. Economic results not gerrymandering will lead to the take over of the Senate as well unless there are a majority like you who wants an expansive, intrusive, massive central govt. trying to legislate equal outcome for people who cannot compete in society.

    I do feel sorry for people who cannot compete but trying to legislate equal outcome and legislating social issues isn't the answer and never will be

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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How do you know what was in the House Bills? As for filibustering a bill they have to be presented before being filibustered
    Just today, the minimum wage bill was blocked from opening debate in the Senate. What are Senate GOPs afraid of? As Senate GOPs like McConnell said last decade, give us a straight-up-or-down vote !
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    Re: PostABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Democrats face serious obstacles as they look to the November elections, with President Obama’s approval rating at a new low and a majority of voters saying they prefer a Congress in Republican hands to check the president’s agenda, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    Obama’s approval rating fell to 41 percent, down from 46 percent through the first three months of the year and the lowest of his presidency in Post-ABC News polls. Just 42 percent approve of his handling of the economy, 37 percent approve of how he is handling the implementation of the Affordable Care Act and 34 percent approve of his handling of the situation involving Ukraine and Russia.


    More here:

    Post-ABC News poll shows Democrats at risk in November as Obama’s approval rating falls - The Washington Post

    He's still that popular?


    The question I have is how many posts in will it be before I read that Obama will regain the house in November with approval ratings BELOW 40%....

    If you read between the lines here, it is all about credibility. On the files where he has boasted, gone meteoric in his already over-the-top rhetoric he is well into the 30's. He has simply told too many lies, been too much the swashbuckler, "enemies" baiter and too little the deliverer.
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