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Capitol Police Probing Threatening Statements Against Harry Reid[W:29]

beefheart said:
Sounds like a bunch of self styled Barney Fife wannabees.

If those clowns tried to stop me with a roadblock, it would be filmed and I'd get their names, and off it would go to actual police. Who the hell do these hillbillies think they are?
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Evidently, they're one step above local law, so they think.

I think I know why they're doing it too. They think they're going to warn Bundy that feds are coming to arrest him either via 2 way FRS radio or cell phone, and they think they're going to be of some help by tipping him and other militia members before agents arrive at his ranch. Kind of like flashing your lights at oncoming motorists to let them know there's speed trap ahead of them. If that's the case, and if that occurs, those involved with two way radio communications might also be charged with aiding and abetting a felon along with obstruction of justice.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cut out the baiting and other personal nonsense.
 
AJiveMan said:
Why are you bring up Wisconsin in this thread? say something about the death threats to Harry Reid, that is the subject.
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I already had my say regarding these "threats" that the Capitol police refuse to elaborate on.

Your linked articles point to the fact that this is not an unusual occurrence so any unique narrative you are trying to get from this fact-deprived story falls flat.
 
AJiveMan said:
Why are you bring up Wisconsin in this thread? say something about the death threats to Harry Reid, that is the subject.
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Do you not know that there are hundreds of death threats to presidents and congresspeople every week? Always have been, always will be.

And a 10-year-old on a smart phone can make a death threat as a prank. In fact, a DEMOCRAT can make a death threat just to make REPUBLICANS look bad. Those kinds of tactics are used all the time in politics.
 
Erod said:
Do you not know that there are hundreds of death threats to presidents and congresspeople every week? Always have been, always will be.

And a 10-year-old on a smart phone can make a death threat as a prank. In fact, a DEMOCRAT can make a death threat just to make REPUBLICANS look bad. Those kinds of tactics are used all the time in politics.
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Hey, don't single me out, all I did was post the breaking news story. I do believe there's something to the story though, many people out in western states dislike the US Government, mostly the people who feel the government has overdone it's authority. It's usually whackadoodles who make the threats against lawmakers. It wouldn't come as a surprise to me if it were found to be a militia person making the threats to Reid.
 
AJiveMan said:
Hey, don't single me out, all I did was post the breaking news story. I do believe there's something to the story though, many people out in western states dislike the US Government, mostly the people who feel the government has overdone it's authority. It's usually whackadoodles who make the threats against lawmakers. It wouldn't come as a surprise to me if it were found to be a militia person making the threats to Reid.
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Could be.

I'm just saying it happens every single day. Reid has been getting these calls for years and years and years, but NOW he needs to bring them to the limelight because the situation is hot and he needs a distraction and some sympathy. The media, of course, is more than willing to oblige him.
 
Erod said:
Could be.

I'm just saying it happens every single day. Reid has been getting these calls for years and years and years, but NOW he needs to bring them to the limelight because the situation is hot and he needs a distraction and some sympathy. The media, of course, is more than willing to oblige him.
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Of course. This fight out west has been brewing since what? 1993 or earlier? And now it's festering like a boil on someone's neck, and won't go away.

Of course, there's conspiracy theorists who believe the BLM is out for a land grab in Texas, but a BLM spokesperson already made statements saying it was false. When people think of a land grab, they think that the land was privately owned, some may have been, some maybe not. If you rent or lease federal lands, that doesn't mean that by the lease, you automatically own it. It can be taken back and made back into true public lands for people to use, and ranchers see this as a threat to their lives.

Yes, threats and intimidation date back to the earliest times. I can't imagine how the Lincoln administration must have dealt with threats to him.

It was said on some MSM threats to Obama's life increased as much as 500% after he assumed office of the presidency.

MSM might have been tipped off about a recent spike in threats to Reid, who knows the motive for releasing such a news tip.
 
AJiveMan said:
It's not unlawful for a police department to set up checkpoints or roadblocks for DUI/DWI. I won't split hairs with you or anyone else in this thread as to what is lawful and what is not. Armed citizens have no lawful right or purpose for stopping people or motorists.
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I have a 2nd Amendment solution to that. If an armed militia member attempts to stop your car, make sure you have a bigger gun than he does, and kill the asshole. You don't get in trouble for self defense.
 
AJiveMan said:
Capitol Police Probing Threatening Statements Against Harry Reid - NBC News

So now, while Harry the Rep. in Nevada tried to have the government enforce laws, people are threatening him.

That must be the last resort for anti government folks.

So, the Bundy militia is now stopping ordinary citizens at checkpoints they have set up themselves.

Sounds like a Gestapo tactic to me.

Read more: Police investigating Cliven Bundy-related threats to Harry Reid - Manu Raju - POLITICO.com
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Given that this is basically open fields with a few highways, where are these checkpoints being set up? Under what actually real authority does the 'militia' clam a right to stop anyone for anything? Why are the police tolerating this?
 
danarhea said:
I have a 2nd Amendment solution to that. If an armed militia member attempts to stop your car, make sure you have a bigger gun than he does, and kill the asshole. You don't get in trouble for self defense.
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So do I, it's called accelerator.
 
Jerry said:
Given that this is basically open fields with a few highways, where are these checkpoints being set up? Under what actually real authority does the 'militia' clam a right to stop anyone for anything? Why are the police tolerating this?
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Why? who knows? maybe looking for federal law enforcement officers?

IMO, they have no right to stop people, unless of course they're on private property and hired out by the owner.

Why are the police tolerating this? I would have to say the sheriff doesn't want to get involved in the situation, that is, if the militia people are stopping vehicles or people on a public highway.
 
Sababa said:
if they are armed and stopping ordinary citizens at road blocks they are terrorists and should be in prison.
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No, this doesn't make them terrorists, as terrorism is a specific thing with a real definition. Just because you and I don't like it and it rightly makes us mad, doesn't mean they're terrorists. Please calm the hyperbole.
 
AJiveMan said:
Why? who knows? maybe looking for federal law enforcement officers?

IMO, they have no right to stop people, unless of course they're on private property and hired out by the owner.

Why are the police tolerating this? I would have to say the sheriff doesn't want to get involved in the situation, that is, if the militia people are stopping vehicles or people on a public highway.
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You can't stop people using a public road even if it's on your property. If you were to look at the official record of your land you would see that any public road crossing it is on an easement or right-of-way operating under federal/state protection.

Anyway I'm not looking for opinion, I'm looking for actual fact. If you have any real knowledge on this I thank you in advance for the links you've already reviewed leading you to that knowledge.
 
AJiveMan said:
Capitol Police Probing Threatening Statements Against Harry Reid - NBC News




So now, while Harry the Rep. in Nevada tried to have the government enforce laws, people are threatening him.

That must be the last resort for anti government folks.

So, the Bundy militia is now stopping ordinary citizens at checkpoints they have set up themselves.

Sounds like a Gestapo tactic to me.




Read more: Police investigating Cliven Bundy-related threats to Harry Reid - Manu Raju - POLITICO.com
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Oh, yeah, poor Harry, the last misunderstood Nazi.

Let's see, how has he characterized this file? I seem to recall the usual spittle flinging rhetoric of "terrorists" when discussing opponents in congress, oh, then there was that reference to "traitors" and even "jihadists".

Now let's think about that. If say, some survivalists were saying that about him, how many heavily armed homeland security agents would be surrounding them.

I have not one iota of respect nor sympathy for Harry, "smash mouth", Reid. I know his type, have known them all my life....they are cowards and bullies who use their "exalted position" to demean others, they become vice principals, bureaucrats and politicians.

In Harry Reid's world you don't disagree, or he goes "nuclear option", so why on earth would anyone by surprised/outraged/alarmed or even bothered by death threats?

Now, had he acted in anyway statesmanlike, say proposing to use the power and influence of his office to find a peaceful compromise, and was getting threats, THEN I would be concerned.

But when you swim in the sewer, you attract all kinds of ****.
 
Jerry said:
You can't stop people using a public road even if it's on your property. If you were to look at the official record of your land you would see that any public road crossing it is on an easement or right-of-way operating under federal/state protection.

Anyway I'm not looking for opinion, I'm looking for actual fact. If you have any real knowledge on this I thank you in advance for the links you've already reviewed leading you to that knowledge.
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I just read an article that stated the armed militia group have left, it was posted on April 25.

Rep. Horsford looking for solution to armed militia near Mesquit - 8 News NOW

Representative Steven Horsford, D-Nev., meet Thursday afternoon with several local leaders in Mesquite about what to do about armed militia patrolling the area around Cliven Bundy's ranch.


Rep. Horsford, whose 4th Congressional district includes the disputed Gold Butte area, met with leaders from Mesquite, Bunkerville and Moapa to try to figure out a strategy where rancher Cliven Bundy feels safe, but armed guards, who have been with him since the dispute with the Bureau of Land Management started, are gone.

Horsford would like the armed guards out of the area because he believes their presence is hurting a thriving tourist destination.
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Jerry said:
No, this doesn't make them terrorists, as terrorism is a specific thing with a real definition. Just because you and I don't like it and it rightly makes us mad, doesn't mean they're terrorists. Please calm the hyperbole.
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if they are ordinary citizens, stopping other citizens with guns that is terrorism......................
so either you support terrorism or you don't.
 
Sababa said:
if they are ordinary citizens, stopping other citizens with guns that is terrorism......................
so either you support terrorism or you don't.
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Well, it might be construed as such. In some states, such as the one I reside in, preventing someone's movements could fall under the false imprisonment law. A felony.
940.30 False imprisonment. Whoever intentionally confines or restrains another without the person's consent and with knowledge that he or she has no lawful authority to do so is guilty of a Class H felony. - See more at: 940.30 False imprisonment. - Wisconsin Statutes
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This is the Nevada statute;
NRS 200.460  Definition; penalties.
1.  False imprisonment is an unlawful violation of the personal liberty of another, and consists in confinement or detention without sufficient legal authority.
2.  A person convicted of false imprisonment shall pay all damages sustained by the person so imprisoned, and, except as otherwise provided in this section, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
3.  Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to subsection 4, if the false imprisonment is committed:
(a) By a prisoner in a penal institution without a deadly weapon; or
(b) By any other person with the use of a deadly weapon,
Ê the person convicted of such a false imprisonment is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years.
4.  Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to subsection 5, if the false imprisonment is committed by using the person so imprisoned as a shield or to avoid arrest, the person convicted of such a false imprisonment is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 15 years.
5.  If the false imprisonment is committed by a prisoner who is in lawful custody or confinement with the use of a deadly weapon, the person convicted of such a false imprisonment is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 20 years.
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Sababa said:
if they are ordinary citizens, stopping other citizens with guns that is terrorism......................
so either you support terrorism or you don't.
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that is not terrorism. you have no clue about what you are talking about.
 
ludin said:
that is not terrorism. you have no clue about what you are talking about.
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Maybe sababa has a point there.

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
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http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Godwin violation.
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All Godwin's Law states is that as a n internet discussion progresses, the possibility of a reference to Nazi Germany, Hitler, etc approaches 1. Nothing more, nothing less... Wish people would stop mixing actual Godwin's Law, as in what it actually says, with the many - and IMO often illogical - corollaries that exist. >_<
 
Sababa said:
if they are ordinary citizens, stopping other citizens with guns that is terrorism.....
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That's not what terrorism is.

What they're doing is a crime, and you're right to be mad, but it's not terrorism.
 
Jerry said:
That's not what terrorism is.

What they're doing is a crime, and you're right to be mad, but it's not terrorism.
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So what exactly is terrorism....
 
Shouldn't this thread be titled "Capitol Police Probing Threatening Statements By Harry Reid"?
He's calling people terrorists, threatens them (and others) all the time, and is a general menace to the USA.

I'd say take him to Gitmo and waterboard him, but with the oatmeal and spittle dripping down his chin, it would not be anything unusual for him. Besides, there hasn't been any useful information in his head for years, as evidenced by his cazy ramblings for several years.
 
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