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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Im sure Toyota did a pretty thorough cost analysis before making the final decision to move here.

    And I have to assume they took everything into consideration include the possibility of extended water shortages and the impact it would have on their Businesses and employees.
    Likely but, there's been a lot of blind eyes concerning the water situation.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But its not really relevent to the fact that Texas is growing economically by staying true to the Conservative economic principles that Democrats claim don't work.

    Texas is building onto a already 10 Billion dollar Surplus by lowering taxes and incentivizing Corporate investment.

    According to the left none of that works.

    Thats whats so great about this story.

    Toyota chose a Conservative state over a State thats decidingly left wing and even incurred the substantial expense to make the move.
    It would be naive to believe that Toyota decided to move to Texas simply because of local politics, it may be a factor and I give credit to Texas for having a business friendly environment (I can only speak for myself not the ambiguous "left" that you're concerned with).

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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh ok, so now you are claiming no right-leaning Texan accepts ANY federal money right? NONE, Zip, Nada anywhere correct?
    How does accepting federal money translate into "not doing for themselves"? Yes, there are those who have federal pensions that they've earned. Texas also contributes the largest amount of people to the Military of any state, so yes, they get federal monies. People who work on highway projects, etc, get some monies from the Federal government for working on Federal Highways and projects. There are retirees that get Social Security and Medicare (of course they paid for them over a lifetime of labor, not exactly handouts like welfare).

    Outside of those, you might possibly find one or two that leach unearned income out of the federal government who act like leftist but claim not to be.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Im sure Toyota did a pretty thorough cost analysis before making the final decision to move here.

    And I have to assume they took everything into consideration include the possibility of extended water shortages and the impact it would have on their Bussiness and employees.
    Actually, having lived in both California and Texas, the water shortages in Texas are nothing like those in California.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    It would be naive to believe that Toyota decided to move to Texas simply because of local politics, it may be a factor and I give credit to Texas for having a business friendly environment (I can only speak for myself not the ambiguous "left" that you're concerned with).
    Companies as a general rule do not move to where state governments are friendly, as much as away from where they are unfriendly.

    If a company is happy where it is, they will almost never pack up and move to a new location, especially with all of the costs involved. But they will do so if they see the condition where they are at becomes untenable. This is becoming the status of a business in California. And I expect the exodus to increase even faster in the coming years.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Companies as a general rule do not move to where state governments are friendly, as much as away from where they are unfriendly.

    If a company is happy where it is, they will almost never pack up and move to a new location, especially with all of the costs involved. But they will do so if they see the condition where they are at becomes untenable. This is becoming the status of a business in California. And I expect the exodus to increase even faster in the coming years.
    Its a factor but its not the only factor, I promise a global automotive company like Toyota isn't making decisions based on a single factor.

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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Texas receives about 58 billion dollars more in federal spending than it pays in federal taxes, do for yourself and give it back please.
    But what is included in that 58 billion? I'm pretty sure the record will show that it involves some agricultural subsidies and such as that--the same all states get--but the huge lion's share of it will go to fund NASA, military bases, and other defense spending plus Medicaid and Medicare that Texas had or has little say or responsibility for. New Mexico receives proportionately more federal money per capita than Texas, but here too it goes mostly to the national labs, military bases, White Sands proving grounds, and other military installations plus allotments for Medicaid and Medicare. The average New Mexican benefits only minimally from that and New Mexico remains one of the poorest states per capita.

    But hey, if more big business chooses to move out of the tax and regulation hell hole of California and move to Texas and New Mexico, the increase in tax base should start correcting the imbalance.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But what is included in that 58 billion? I'm pretty sure the record will show that it involves some agricultural subsidies and such as that--the same all states get--but the huge lion's share of it will go to fund NASA, military bases, and other defense spending plus Medicaid and Medicare that Texas had or has little say or responsibility for. New Mexico receives proportionately more federal money per capita than Texas, but here too it goes mostly to the national labs, military bases, White Sands proving grounds, and other military installations plus allotments for Medicaid and Medicare. The average New Mexican benefits only minimally from that and New Mexico remains one of the poorest states per capita.

    But hey, if more big business chooses to move out of the tax and regulation hell hole of California and move to Texas and New Mexico, the increase in tax base should start correcting the imbalance.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Still counts.
    Sure it does--we all pay for it or have it added to the debt we are saddled with--but it is not due to any policy or special benefits or unfair advantage that Texas is getting. In other words, you can't blame Texas for it. The Federal government does pretty much whatever it damn well pleases and if we the people don't like it, don't want it, hate it or whatever, well that's just tough.
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    Re: Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Sure it does--we all pay for it or have it added to the debt we are saddled with--but it is not due to any policy or special benefits or unfair advantage that Texas is getting. In other words, you can't blame Texas for it. The Federal government does pretty much whatever it damn well pleases and if we the people don't like it, don't want it, hate it or whatever, well that's just tough.
    I never said it was unfair, but don't act as if Texas is just helpless in the face of all these Federal dollars. You don't think their congressmen lobby and push for that spending in their own state? They want it and they go looking for it.

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