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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That's fine. I have been bothered on the ACA ever since its first vote and passed utilizing the whip, bribes, threats etc. and those were used by the Democrats on their own members of congress. Without knowing anything about the ACA, what it consists of that turned me against it. Of course listening to Pelosi, she and all other Democrats didn't know what was in it either as she said, "You have to pass it first to know what's in it." Something like that.

    Before I came to DP I was on Politico, there I said so many times that the ACA wasn't passed on its merits, it was passed via threats and bribes and that convinced me it was all about political agenda. I have been quoted, ask Nimby, he was known as Linc on Politico, as saying I didn't care if the ACA turned out to be the best since sex and peanut butter. I will continue to be adamantly opposed to it because of the way it was passed. With the whip and not on merit.

    Medicaid, with all the new additions it may become a worthless piece of paper. Nationwide only around 60% of all doctors today accept medicaid and in places like New Jersey only 40%. There have been many doctor offices in my area that have put up signs, "No new Medicaid Patients Accepted." The problem, the very low reimbursement rate of the approved costs. Doctors lose money on each patient. So putting more people on medicaid could end up being no more than a feel good move by those who made the move and end up not helping the over all situation much at all.

    But you are right, I equate medicaid and the ACA was two separate things. For me one has nothing to do with the other. Medicaid can be fixed to made to work for those who are on it if the reimbursement rate is raised to acceptable levels where doctors do not lose money in accepting more medicaid patients. The ACA is an exercise in political agenda forced upon the American people when the majority of Americans did not want it. The Democrats knew this back in 2009 and 2010 and ignored the will of the people. For over 4 years we have been told to just give the ACA time, the people will come to like it. But today the numbers for and against are roughly the same as when it was first passed.

    Sangha has told me to get over how it was passed, sorry I can't do that. For me the ACA will always represent the use of raw political power to pass something a political party wanted passed against the wishes of the people. The Democrats passed it because they could, they passed it because it was their political agenda, not because the people wanted it. Medicare the people wanted, polls showed well over 60% of Americans were in favor of Medicare before it even was brought up in congress. The ACA, only 35% of the American people wanted it and that is close to the percentage of today that is in favor of it. See the difference, one had the back of the people, the other told the people to stick it where the sun don't shine. I will always be against it. Not for what in it, I don't care about the mandates and I believe if medicaid is fixed, I am in total support of upping the reimbursement rate. But I just can't stomach the ACA. Such is life.
    Excellent post, Pero. It's good to remind people how this "health" plan ever saw the light of day in the first place. It took bribes and threats, and that's only to get the Dem vote - not one Republican voted for it! If it turns out okay, the Dems can crow about it...for right now into the foreseeable future, they have to get used to eating crow! They own this mess that people still don't like...after four years!

    Good morning, Pero. Did you watch the eclipse?

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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post, Pero. It's good to remind people how this "health" plan ever saw the light of day in the first place. It took bribes and threats, and that's only to get the Dem vote - not one Republican voted for it! If it turns out okay, the Dems can crow about it...for right now into the foreseeable future, they have to get used to eating crow! They own this mess that people still don't like...after four years!

    Good morning, Pero. Did you watch the eclipse?

    Morning Pol, You remember my rants on Politico about the way it was passed and my saying the the ACA might be the best thing since sex and peanut butter, but I could never be for it because it wasn't passed on its merits, it was passed only because the Democrats had the power to do so. If a bill relies on the whip, threats and bribes to get it passed and not on its merits, it can't be good for the American people.

    I vowed about a week ago to stay away from the ACA, I figure sooner or later the American will speak and speak loudly as they did in the 2010 elections. That seems to be the only way for those who wield power and do things only because they can for the American people to strike back. Will it happen this year, I do not know. It could. But the big question is, will the ACA be accepted over time? Will the American People finally give up trying to work their will and just accept it because one political party had the power to get it passed against the majority of Americans will? I fear that is what will happen. That is exactly what the Democrats want to happen. They don't care what the majority of Americans believe or want or don't want, it is political power to force upon America what they want.

    I swear, I will try to stay away from this subject. Will I succeed, probably for a day or two until that force of power becomes too much for me to ignore.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Morning Pol, You remember my rants on Politico about the way it was passed and my saying the the ACA might be the best thing since sex and peanut butter, but I could never be for it because it wasn't passed on its merits, it was passed only because the Democrats had the power to do so. If a bill relies on the whip, threats and bribes to get it passed and not on its merits, it can't be good for the American people.

    I vowed about a week ago to stay away from the ACA, I figure sooner or later the American will speak and speak loudly as they did in the 2010 elections. That seems to be the only way for those who wield power and do things only because they can for the American people to strike back. Will it happen this year, I do not know. It could. But the big question is, will the ACA be accepted over time? Will the American People finally give up trying to work their will and just accept it because one political party had the power to get it passed against the majority of Americans will? I fear that is what will happen. That is exactly what the Democrats want to happen. They don't care what the majority of Americans believe or want or don't want, it is political power to force upon America what they want.

    I swear, I will try to stay away from this subject. Will I succeed, probably for a day or two until that force of power becomes too much for me to ignore.
    I have just about decided the same! However, just because I am not endlessly talking about it - since everything has already been said about a million times, doesn't mean I am slowly coming around. Oh No! It simply means I am totally bored with it. I will remember at the voting booth in November, however, and it will be interesting to see how other voters feel about it. BTW, I would feel the exact same way if the Repubs pulled a similar stunt, disregarding what the people are saying. What a crock - we pay their damn salaries, and when I hire anyone for any kind of job, they'd better do as I ask, or they can find another job! Only in DC could this happen, and to be told "you'll like it or else," because it's the law that only one party dreamed up, sounds rather like a dictatorship, and we are a Republic the last I checked!

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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I have just about decided the same! However, just because I am not endlessly talking about it - since everything has already been said about a million times, doesn't mean I am slowly coming around. Oh No! It simply means I am totally bored with it. I will remember at the voting booth in November, however, and it will be interesting to see how other voters feel about it. BTW, I would feel the exact same way if the Repubs pulled a similar stunt,
    Are you good with your governor Kasich taking the Medicaid Expansion, insuring hundreds of thousands of you people in your state--providing tens of thousands of NEW jobs--with his eye toward the coming election and independent/DEM voters .
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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    72% lifetime from FreedomWorks. 73% lifetime from Club for Growth.

    She gets an F- minus from me.
    Which is why we have had stalemate in the House since 2011. Boehner's comments proved that on Immigration, which Rodgers also promised last year .
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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hope this moron loses her seat.

    I don't care if a Demokrat takes it, but the Tea Part should have her ass in their crosshairs, and any other idiot with an R by their name acting like an idiot Demokrat.

    And in the leadership of the party... (projectile puke icon)... Boehner need be challenged, this moron need be challenged, and any other gutless Rino.
    This moron you speak of in Rodgers represents one of the most Aryan enklaves in the country zimmer, coupled with Northern Idaho. Your views align with their views and most of her views .
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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you good with your governor Kasich taking the Medicaid Expansion, insuring hundreds of thousands of you people in your state--providing tens of thousands of NEW jobs--with his eye toward the coming election and independent/DEM voters .
    Yes I am! In this crappy economy, with not enough good paying jobs to go around, those with the least also need protection, and if I have to pay extra taxes to help them, I won't complain. He may be getting heat on that from others, but people with scant money do get sick, too, and it will eliminate the congestion in the hospital emergency rooms. At least my tax money won't be going to study the effect of sunlight on snails, or something equally stupid! Kasich is a good man, and a smart Governor, too!

    Greetings, NIMBY. .

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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This moron you speak of in Rodgers represents one of the most Aryan enklaves in the country zimmer, coupled with Northern Idaho. Your views align with their views and most of her views .
    This is about her stance on ObamaKare and immigration. If she wants to surrender... then she has to go.
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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    but the Tea Party should have her ass in their crosshairs,
    Why go all Palin on us and put McMorris Rodgers in your cross-hairs, and the ensuing said implication of shooting her down?
    Are you aware she has a down syndrome girl as Palin does?
    But the kicker is that her husband is retired military .
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    Re: McMorris Rodgers says ACA likely to stay

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Yes I am! In this crappy economy, with not enough good paying jobs to go around, those with the least also need protection, and if I have to pay extra taxes to help them, I won't complain. He may be getting heat on that from others, but people with scant money do get sick, too, and it will eliminate the congestion in the hospital emergency rooms. At least my tax money won't be going to study the effect of sunlight on snails, or something equally stupid! Kasich is a good man, and a smart Governor, too!

    Greetings, NIMBY. .
    I agree--and so did Sheldon Adelson who invited Kasich to that Vegas primary a few weeks ago with Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Chris Christie.
    Too bad the other 25 GOP governors are denying the most needy of their citizens a benefit that you recognize helps, just in the ER alone.
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