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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    It's clear this guy has never met my wife; who makes more money than something like 96% of American men.
    No, he probably never met your wife if you haven't been to NH. By the way, I make more money than my husband - and he works more hours than I do.

    The lawmaker in question didn't make an "all or nothing statement".

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    One of his arguments against fair pay for women....it that women do not care about money......so they do not need to have the same pay for the same work.
    Which of course wasn't an argument that was actually made. His claim that women aren't as motivated by money is based on the fact that men, generally speaking, go to greater lengths to acquire it, whether that be in the form of more dangerous vocations, longer work hours, etc. As a result, the fact that women earn less than men on average is unsurprising and not in need of a legislative solution. That's the actual argument being made here, and one that is not entirely unreasonable.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    First of all, it's a state senator. Who really cares?

    Second of all, his constant saying of "it's the statistics" was stupid. His interpretations are not in the statistics.

    Third of all, disingenuous parsing of his words is disingenuous. While he said it very poorly, and said it in ways which can be considered offensive, it doesn't change the fact his general point is not necessarily wrong. He said it in a terrible way, but for anyone to deny society historically (and presently) expects far more from the man than the woman, in terms of work and pay, is to simply deny reality.
    Exactly. I'm curious how this became a national issue instead of a local one. So far I believe I'm the only one who posted in this thread who actually is a woman living in NH. What happens here is strictly impacting us and nobody else.

    The parsing of his words is more concerning than anything he actually said. Including but not limited to the intentional exclusion of the words "by money" after the comment about men being more motivated than women. And for HuffPo to straight out lie about what he said really shocks me. Or maybe it shouldn't.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    First of all, it's a state senator. Who really cares?

    Second of all, his constant saying of "it's the statistics" was stupid. His interpretations are not in the statistics.

    Third of all, disingenuous parsing of his words is disingenuous. While he said it very poorly, and said it in ways which can be considered offensive, it doesn't change the fact his general point is not necessarily wrong. He said it in a terrible way, but for anyone to deny society historically (and presently) expects far more from the man than the woman, in terms of work and pay, is to simply deny reality.
    You are REALLY wrong in this case, he is making an argument to oppose legislative action in the NH House for equal pay for equal work, no wage discrimination based on gender for the same work.

    This already passed their Senate, he is a Republican.

    I'm surprised to see you taking this position.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Which of course wasn't an argument that was actually made. His claim that women aren't as motivated by money is based on the fact that men, generally speaking, go to greater lengths to acquire it, whether that be in the form of more dangerous vocations, longer work hours, etc. As a result, the fact that women earn less than men on average is unsurprising and not in need of a legislative solution. That's the actual argument being made here, and one that is not entirely unreasonable.
    This does not guarantee equal pay for unequal work, you have not understood the legislation in question.

    This bill in essence says if you do the same job, you get the same RATE OF PAY, no discrimination based on gender.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Exactly. I'm curious how this became a national issue instead of a local one.
    Because, just like the Bundy issue, we have a conservative/GOP doing some REALLY dumb things.

    And as usual, his ilk will try to defend his position.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not me. And I live in the state.

    It's just an opinion. He thinks men are more motivated by money than women are. That's pretty benign as far as I'm concerned.
    The funny thing is, based on Democrat ideology, what he said was actually a knock on men rather than on women.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    It's clear this guy has never met my wife; who makes more money than something like 96% of American men.
    Evil four percenter!!
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    AN ACT relative to paycheck equity.

    Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

    1 Discrimination in the Workplace; Definitions; Equal Pay. RSA 275:37 is repealed and reenacted to read as follows:

    275:37 Equal Pay.

    I. No employer or person seeking employees shall discriminate between employees on the basis of sex by paying employees of one sex at a rate less than the rate paid to employees of the other sex for equal work that requires equal skill, effort, and responsibility and is performed under similar working conditions, except where such payment is made pursuant to:

    (a) A seniority system;

    (b) A merit or performance-based system;

    (c) A system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production;

    (d) Expertise;

    (e) Shift differentials;

    (f) A demonstrable factor other than sex, such as education, training, or experience.

    II. An employer who is paying wages in violation of this section shall not reduce the wage rate of any other employee in order to comply with this section.


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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The funny thing is, based on Democrat ideology, what he said was actually a knock on men rather than on women.
    Yup it was. But the partisans crawl out of the wordwork with their faux outrage anyway.

    I was just looking at some census data on my lovely Live Free or Die state. In 2011 we had the highest median household income in the country ($61,042) but also one of the lowest populations of people earning over $200,000 of any state in the country. On the balance, it looks like incomes here are just about as good as they could be.

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