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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    First of all, it's a state senator. Who really cares?

    Second of all, his constant saying of "it's the statistics" was stupid. His interpretations are not in the statistics.

    Third of all, disingenuous parsing of his words is disingenuous. While he said it very poorly, and said it in ways which can be considered offensive, it doesn't change the fact his general point is not necessarily wrong. He said it in a terrible way, but for anyone to deny society historically (and presently) expects far more from the man than the woman, in terms of work and pay, is to simply deny reality.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Men value hard work more than Women? Overtime? Nights and weekends?
    In my experience and observation, it certainly seems likely.
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Just another thread with another failed attempt to play the gender card.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Women don't work weekends or nights? Tell that to the women you'll see working in every store or restaurant you go into this evening and weekend.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    It's clear this guy has never met my wife; who makes more money than something like 96% of American men.
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    He's not entirely incorrect. Men, generally speaking work more hours on average, are more likely to work overtime and have riskier occupations Those facts do in part account for the wage discrepancies between men and women. The way in which his statement was worded was his true error.
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMFG, I just looked at HuffPo. Their headline:

    GOP Lawmaker Says Women Don't Deserve Equal Pay Because They're Lazier

    Anyone who doesn't think this partisan nonsense and liberal rephrasing of what people say isn't out of control needs a smack in the head.

    He never said women don't deserve equal pay, and he never said women are lazy.
    Sure, he is on the floor of your representative body, not to defend a pay fairness bill, but to stop it.

    One of his arguments against fair pay for women....it that women do not care about money......so they do not need to have the same pay for the same work.
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    My own isn't based upon the amount of money I make or the resulting material success, but on the work, itself. There is almost no distinction between what I do and who I am.

    I might never retire.
    I think that is a part of the same concept. It is the drive to create and to be a part of a creative process. It is putting energy into something which takes form. I do that at home, rather than on the job.
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Men value hard work more than Women? Overtime? Nights and weekends?
    You should ask yourself "What is the ratio of stay at home Dads to stay at home Moms". An honest evaluation of the answer to such a question should lead you to certain conclusions.

    It's not as if generalities are accurate predictors of individual behavior, nor should it limit individual choices. Being born male or female does not mean one will automatically gravitate more towards family or work. It just means that men are MORE likely than women to orient themselves around work vis a vis family and women more likely to orient themselves around family. THis may be less true today than it was a century ago, but acknowledging the degree to which traditional roles are still adhered is the product ofan open mind rather than closed.

    If I were to quibble with the statement, itself,I would say that he speaks in absolutes rather than tendencies, so he does pidgeonhole.Had he said "more likely", I would have little objection to the statement at all. .
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    Re: GOP lawmaker: 'Men are more motivated' than women

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I think that is a part of the same concept. .
    Definitely.

    I figured you knew me well enough to know that was implied.
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