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Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You are wrong.

You have not shown me to be wrong.

If you claim to have done so, you are lying and/or deluding yourself.


Either that or you somehow have access to contextual data that I have not encountered.

He has a way of taking the most obtuse points and justifying to himself why he is correct and nothing anybody says can alter that.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

And I told you that you were wrong and why.
So around and around we go.
There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

You have your way of looking at it and I would venture to say that the majority of us disagree and see what Bundy said in the proper context.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You are wrong.

You have not shown me to be wrong.

If you claim to have done so, you are lying and/or deluding yourself.


Either that or you somehow have access to contextual data that I have not encountered.
Yes you are wrong and shown to be wrong.
And you are deluding yourself saying otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.
And that is exactly what you have done.





You have your way of looking at it and I would venture to say that the majority of us disagree and see what Bundy said in the proper context.
And the majority would be wrong.
It wouldn't be the first time, or even the last.
In context it was of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
Which makes any claim of racist a foolish claim.


And your argumentum ad populum is a fallacy and is silly.
And as such, places your position in the field of fail.


He has a way of taking the most obtuse points and justifying to himself why he is correct and nothing anybody says can alter that.
There you go talking about yourself. Figures.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

And the majority would be wrong.
It wouldn't be the first time, or even the last.
In context it was of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
Which makes any claim of racist a foolish claim.

The majority is only wrong if they are wrong. In this case, the majority seem to think like me and since I am right, they are too. And I never claimed he was a racist... just that he is an uneducated idiot.

And your argumentum ad populum is a fallacy and is silly.
And as such, places your position in the field of fail.

If just making that argument was my argument then it would be fallacious. Since I happen to be right then it just makes it a fact and not a fail at all.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

The majority is only wrong if they are wrong. In this case, the majority seem to think like me and since I am right, they are too. And I never claimed he was a racist... just that he is an uneducated idiot.
Then you are butting in and speaking nonsense to the arguments being made.
Which makes you even more wrong.




If just making that argument was my argument then it would be fallacious. Since I happen to be right then it just makes it a fact and not a fail at all.
:doh:lamo:doh:lamo:doh
And yet you are wrong.
Go figure.

In context it was of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
Which makes any claim of racist a foolish claim.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Then you are butting in and speaking nonsense to the arguments being made.
Which makes you even more wrong.





:doh:lamo:doh:lamo:doh
And yet you are wrong.
Go figure.

In context it was of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
Which makes any claim of racist a foolish claim.

Just like the good ol' days... nothing changes and I should have not expected any growth from you.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

It's his fault for not paying the fee. It's not his fault that the BLM responded in a thoroughly aggressive and unnecessary manner.

They dont make men the way that they used to. Cliven Bundy is nothing more than a crying brat that didnt get his was so he is bringing his family along with his childish little tantrums.

Actually the video where little Bundy got a tazed shows a whole group of childish brats. if I was any of those idiots I would be embarrassed to show my face.

All that the Bundys had to do to avoid being tazed or harassed by the BLM and their guns is to walk away. But instead they got in their faces and yelled and spat like morons lining up to be man handled. But none of their behavior was unexpected hence the guns and tazers that the BLM had on hand just in case the Bundies did what everyone anticipated them doing: acting like babies. Hell their behavior justified the weapons and the tactics.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Just like the good ol' days... nothing changes and I should have not expected any growth from you.
What an absurd response.
It is you who hasn't changed, or even matured, being wrong as you are and all.
Figures.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

What an absurd response.
It is you who hasn't changed, or even matured, being wrong as you are and all.
Figures.

Thanks... at least I leave you behind with a smile now.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Yes you are wrong and shown to be wrong.
And you are deluding yourself saying otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.
And that is exactly what you have done.
You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
No. You are as already shown.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.
Context is everything.
Unfortunately you want to take his words out of context to suggest non-disparaging words are unintentionally disparaging. :doh :lamo :doh:lamo :doh
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

No. You are as already shown.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.
Context is everything.
Unfortunately you want to take his words out of context to suggest non-disparaging words are unintentionally disparaging. :doh :lamo :doh:lamo :doh
You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
Yes you are wrong, as shown.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Yes you are wrong, as shown.
You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Yes we already know The Mark. You are wrong and deny it. Nothing new here, just the same ol', same ol'.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You are wrong.

OR you have information that I do not.
And around and around we go.

Yes you are wrong, as shown.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.
Context is everything.
Unfortunately you want to take his words out of context to suggest non-disparaging words are unintentionally disparaging. :doh :lamo :doh:lamo :doh
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

And around and around we go.

Yes you are wrong, as shown.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

There was no disparagement, deliberate or otherwise.
Context is everything.
Unfortunately you want to take his words out of context to suggest non-disparaging words are unintentionally disparaging. :doh :lamo :doh:lamo :doh
You can lie about proving me wrong all you want, it does not make it true.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You can lie about proving me wrong all you want, it does not make it true.
You can lie all you want, you have repeatedly been shown to be wrong.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

You can lie all you want, you have repeatedly been shown to be wrong.

Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.
That statement in no way proves me wrong.

It is only a restatement of your position, with no information that shows my position to be false. If stating positions was evidence, we would have on ****ed up court system
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

That statement in no way proves me wrong.
Yeah it does. Intent and context matters.
You don't just get to say that he was disparaging when he wasn't.
That is called lunacy.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Yeah it does. Intent and context matters.
You don't just get to say that he was disparaging when he wasn't.
That is called lunacy.
I heard the same video you did - I agree intent and context matter.

Yet my conclusion based on what I believe was Bundy's intent, along with the context of the video, based on his tone and word choices, leads me to the opinion that he spoke with concern while unintentionally disparaging black persons.

Which is why I stated that he was unwittingly racist in his remarks

He didn't intend to be racist. In fact he is not racist. But he was working off of faulty assumptions and generalizations which, by themselves, disparage black persons...statements based upon them had no chance.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

while unintentionally disparaging black persons.

he was unwittingly racist in his remarks

But he was working off of faulty assumptions and generalizations which, by themselves, disparage black persons.
All of which is wrong.
He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
He was not unwittingly racist either.
And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

All of which is wrong.
He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
He was not unwittingly racist either.
And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
Apparently we have different views of the context.

Because for damn sure I know my position is based on his statements in context as I understand it.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
He was not unwittingly racist.
And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
He was not unwittingly racist.
And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
As I understand the context, I am correct.

Apparently you see his words in a different context.
 
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