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Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

That's quite fascinating. A multitude of other ways, huh. You are treating this like a logical man that has a gripe with the US government. In my opinion, I personally believe that you can't discuss logic with a man that is prepared to do the following:



Yeah, that's right, Richard Mack; the same man that collaborated with white supremacist Randy Weaver on a book. Cliven Bundy associates with people like that and then has the audacity to use Martin Luther King as part of a winning argument on what he thinks about Blacks and how he thinks that Martin Luther King's job is not finished? Yeah, OK. :roll:

I believe that no matter the way the ordeal would've been handled, Cliven Bundy and his bunch would make sure it would be nasty.

Seriously. Use women as a point of favoritism to get sympathy. Didn't Al-Qaeda use women and children as shields? And someone thinks there are reasonable methods to deal with these people; that's hard to believe.


Cliven Bundy And Pals Planned To Use Women As Human Shields
Thanks! That strengthens my belief that when so forewarned, you have to come up with a more effective strategery than this disastrous one. In the end, the government will get their debt collected and likely in the exact manner they should have used from the start. ;)
 
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Then please tell me what post # and I'll be happy to look at it.
Dig through the threads yourself. There are two of them ongoing. Obviously you missed them the first time so if you care, take the time to dig through them yourself.

And when you are looking (since...you know...you care so much) go ahead and dedicate some thought to your dillema...what do you do NOW? Since apparently you dont believe there were any other options and this one turned out to be such a dismal failure...now what? Try it again or do something...I dont know...maybe...different?
 
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The question I asked about Bundy's preface to his speech "let me tell you something else about the Negro" ; "That kind of racist language does not bother you a bit, does it...?, was strictly rhetorical ...
I was pretty sure that this kind of racist language wouldn't bother you at all ...
I was correct...
Proceed zimmer...
proceed...
,

Negro isn't racist.

Remember this from the LA Times?

Obama the 'Magic Negro'
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.

By David Ehrenstein L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.
March 19, 2007
Obama the 'Magic Negro' - latimes.com

If it was racist, do you think the LAT would have run a story under that heading.

Where is your outrage at being duped by the NYT?
OH Snap! No outrage? Instead you carry the poisoned water further down the road.
 
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Negro isn't racist.

Remember this from the LA Times?



If it was racist, do you think the LAT would have run a story under that heading.

Where is your outrage at being duped by the NYT?
OH Snap! No outrage? Instead you carry the poisoned water further down the road.

I wonder if Buck Ewer screamed that Harry Reid is a racist when Harry used the word "Negro" while speaking of President Obama. Something tells me he didn't.....
 
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yada, yada, yada... democratunderground talking points sans the profanity... yada, yada, yada....
You wanted proof of Wright the racist and you got it... now you are a laughing stock.

Welcome to Debatepolitics.

And ROTFLOL.... Pssssssssssssssssssssst... it's 2014... America elected a black man as president a half decade ago.
 
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Dig through the threads yourself. There are two of them ongoing. Obviously you missed them the first time so if you care, take the time to dig through them yourself.

And when you are looking (since...you know...you care so much) go ahead and dedicate some thought to your dillema...what do you do NOW? Since apparently you dont believe there were any other options and this one turned out to be such a dismal failure...now what? Try it again or do something...I dont know...maybe...different?

Sorry, but you're not that relevant or interesting that I would want to dig through your posts to find what most likely doesn't exist.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Please don't fling something this stupid my way again, it can damage my brain cells just by hitting me...


Can someone please point out anyone with an I.Q. over 50 that can rationalize the belief that some people were better off as human chattel was somehow better for them?

You fail to understand the point... but with your 3 minutes here that isn't surprising.

Bundy was pointing out government intervention has resulted in another form of enslavement... he did say something about not wanting to go back... did he not? He did show praise and respect for Mexicans... did he not?

I don't know, but I think it might be time to start a Biggus Thickus list and create an annual award for those who simply fail to or choose not to see the obvious as they are blinded by ideology or are too intellectually dishonest to admit they were wrong.
 
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Sorry, but you're not that relevant or interesting that I would want to dig through your posts to find what most likely doesn't exist.
Apparently the topic you have spent a few days on was not relevant or interesting enough for you to even know what you were talking about on either. So this ad homenim insult is hardly surprising.
 
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Thanks! That strengthens my belief that when so forewarned, you have to come up with a more effective strategery than this disastrous one. In the end, the government will get their debt collected and likely in the exact manner they should have used from the start. ;)
Well I seriously doubt that this prejudiced moocher has all his money in a known account; and, seeing that the only known assets are what you see in front of you--his land, cattle; etc--it looks like it's time to bring out the women. ;)
 
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Wow.....I would expect stuff like that on Stormfront.

Insert black instead of white, and the individual would be ripped a new one.
 
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Well I seriously doubt that this prejudiced moocher has all his money in a known account; and, seeing that the only known assets are what you see in front of you--his land, cattle; etc--it looks like it's time to bring out the women. ;)
I like that, now this idiot is a financial mastermind who has cleverly hidden his fortune in secret bank accounts the government can't track down! Which is weird because it looks like you are aware (we all are) of his actual financial situation, which makes your joke that much more funny!:lamo
 
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Apparently the topic you have spent a few days on was not relevant or interesting enough for you to even know what you were talking about on either. So this ad homenim insult is hardly surprising.

I don't know who you think you are but you're neither the moderator or the debate arbitrator here. But if you're going to call someone out for an ad hominem insult you better make sure you're not guilty of it yourself.
 
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Except in your fairy tale hypothetical, the gangs seized control of a city (and again...if THAT happened, you wouldnt say **** about it and you know it). In the Bundy case...no one even knew the man existed until the fed bungled this situation. But I get it. You think the fed (not the state and locals...they could give half a damn about Bundy) should go wading in and kill anyone that doesnt comply and set things all back in order. Heck...maybe they would let you lead the charge. You should volunteer.

I would say something about it.

I've noticed that the weakest debaters on this forum always insist on making their opponents arguments for them, I think its because they know their own position couldn't stand to real scrutiny.

But yes I think that the police shouldn't allowed armed militia groups to operate in this history, groups who deny the existence of the government, seek to overthrow it, will use terrorism and tactics such as human shields. This is beyond simple law enforcement, beyond unpaid fees, its about whether or not an insurgent groups is going to be allowed to operate in this country or not.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

That's quite fascinating. A multitude of other ways, huh. You are treating this like a logical man that has a gripe with the US government. In my opinion, I personally believe that you can't discuss logic with a man that is prepared to do the following:



Yeah, that's right, Richard Mack; the same man that collaborated with white supremacist Randy Weaver on a book. Cliven Bundy associates with people like that and then has the audacity to use Martin Luther King as part of a winning argument on what he thinks about Blacks and how he thinks that Martin Luther King's job is not finished? Yeah, OK. :roll:

I believe that no matter the way the ordeal would've been handled, Cliven Bundy and his bunch would make sure it would be nasty.

Seriously. Use women as a point of favoritism to get sympathy. Didn't Al-Qaeda use women and children as shields? And someone thinks there are reasonable methods to deal with these people; that's hard to believe.


Cliven Bundy And Pals Planned To Use Women As Human Shields
I still wonder if that was just some nutjob talking about what he and his close friends were saying while bull****ting around a fire the night before.

And not an actual plan.

I'm probably wrong though, sadly.
 
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I wonder if Buck Ewer screamed that Harry Reid is a racist when Harry used the word "Negro" while speaking of President Obama. Something tells me he didn't.....

Or The Gaffer, Joe Biden.

How does someone make those 711 comments... "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent" or his "first clean and articulate African American" and become VP when you have such a ultra sensitive bunch of Demokrats?

Or how about Rev. Wright? Obama's "mentor". No sensitivity there. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

How... does... that... happen?
I'd say it is Demokrats illustrating a clear cut case of intellectual dishonesty, and they're showing how deep that dishonesty runs with their being duped by the NYT.

Where is the outrage about what the NYT has done... taking a quote out of context in an effort to destroy this man.
 
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I still wonder if that was just some nutjob talking about what he and his close friends were saying while bull****ting around a fire the night before.

And not an actual plan.

I'm probably wrong though, sadly.
One thing is for sure though, TM; it goes to show you what kind of people Mr. Bundy is allowing to help him with his dilemma. Scary, huh. :shock:
 
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I don't know who you think you are but you're not the moderator here. If you care to keep your comments addressed to the topic instead of attacking me, you'll last a longer here.
I'm only commenting on your post, that is what the site is for. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. By the way, I read the rules about four hours ago when I signed up. You just violated the one about moderating as well as personal insults; you might want to take a dose of your own medicine. ;)

Your lazy excuse/personal insult for why you won't educate yourself as to what was already said is pretty pathetic. But it does make sense in that you also refused to educate yourself about the BLM and property liens. Topic must have only been interesting enough for your participate in but not actually know what you are talking about in. You don't like that? Sorry, can't help you.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Negro isn't racist.

Remember this from the LA Times?



If it was racist, do you think the LAT would have run a story under that heading.

Where is your outrage at being duped by the NYT?
OH Snap! No outrage? Instead you carry the poisoned water further down the road.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the word "negro"
It is the phrasing of the sentence that is racist.
Bundy takes it upon himself to tell us about THE negro as though there is no difference between any people who have dark skin...
He could have said THE black man and been every bit as racist.
You don't even see the racism in talking about an entire race with one description do you ?
You are so accustomed to expressing racism with this kind of racist language that you can not see anything wrong with it...
You fixate on the word negro while missing the entire racist thrust of the sentence.
WOW!
 
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You pay your taxes and obey the law. If you feel it is unjust then you take it to the court. When a state trooper pulls me over for speeding I accept the fine for my stupidity or I have that option of taking it to court.

This idiot thumbs his nose at LEO and suddenly that is deemed patriotic by the likes of Ted Cruz.

I realize there has been some bad examples of over reactive policemen but I still feel the majority take their oath seriously to serve and protect. Call them all the names you want but the police are the buffer zone between you and an element of society you do all you can to avoid. I almost expect to hear Cruz refer to the police as pigs.
 
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One thing is for sure though, TM; it goes to show you what kind of people Mr. Bundy is allowing to help him with his dilemma. Scary, huh. :shock:
That's another thing I'm still wondering about...

Is Bundy actually leading these people in any way? Or is he just kinda along for the ride.

As supporting evidence, see his apparent lack of knowledge and sense eloquently demonstrated in his now-infamous statement about black people and "Mexicans".

He doesn't seem capable of leading the people involved.
Of course it could be a case of "blind leading the blind", as the saying goes.
 
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That's another thing I'm still wondering about...

Is Bundy actually leading these people in any way? Or is he just kinda along for the ride.

As supporting evidence, see his apparent lack of knowledge and sense eloquently demonstrated in his now-infamous statement about black people and "Mexicans".

He doesn't seem capable of leading the people involved.
Of course it could be a case of "blind leading the blind", as the saying goes.
Indeed. That's what I'm trying to explain to Filthy McNasty. How do you safely reason with someone like Mr. Bundy?
 
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Where is the outrage about what the NYT has done... taking a quote out of context in an effort to destroy this man.
No editing by the NYT could make the nature of Bundy's comments any more racist.
Do you think Sean Hanity only read the NYT when he called Budy's speech "disgusting, deplorable and racist"?
I'm sure that Hanity watched the entire unedited speech before he would commit to that description of what his former hero said.
 
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I'm only commenting on your post, that is what the site is for. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. By the way, I read the rules about four hours ago when I signed up. You just violated the one about moderating as well as personal insults; you might want to take a dose of your own medicine. ;)

Your lazy excuse/personal insult for why you won't educate yourself as to what was already said is pretty pathetic. But it does make sense in that you also refused to educate yourself about the BLM and property liens. Topic must have only been interesting enough for your participate in but not actually know what you are talking about in. You don't like that? Sorry, can't help you.

I've been here a lot longer than you and I intend to keep it that way.
 
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Indeed. That's what I'm trying to explain to Filthy McNasty. How do you safely reason with someone like Mr. Bundy?
Hmm...

From a distance.

Or at gunpoint, I suppose.The former is safer though.
 
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Sorry, but you're not that relevant or interesting that I would want to dig through your posts to find what most likely doesn't exist.
See...there ya go. I dont expect you to, and I dont give enough of a **** about your opinion to dig through 556 posts FOR you...so...here we are.
 
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