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Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

The white and southern parts of the quote was taken as a quote from apdst.
I only added the racist word as the most important part he left out to demonstrate what it is that I hate.

Yes,you judged people to be racist based off of their skin color and location...
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Yes,you judged people to be racist based off of their skin color and location...
You are never going to put words in my mouth.
Keep trying though ...this is amusing...
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

You are never going to put words in my mouth.
Keep trying though ...this is amusing...

I'm not putting words in your mouth,it was your quote with your words.
 
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Don't you think that would be funny?...

What's funny, is you trying to snake your way out this.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

I'm not putting words in your mouth,it was your quote with your words.
I do not preach hatred towards white southerners specifically and that was the point I was making to apdst.
I do however harbor a deep hatred towards Racists from anywhere. If they are white and southern then so be it.
The worst racism I have encountered was not from southerners
The operative word is racist.
Don't you hate racists as well?
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

What's funny, is you trying to snake your way out this.
Snake my way out of what? That I hate racists?
Don't you hate racists apdst?
:lamo
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

I do not preach hatred towards white southerners specifically and that was the point I was making to apdst.
I do however harbor a deep hatred towards Racists from anywhere. If they are white and southern then so be it.
The worst racism I have encountered was not from southerners
The operative word is racist.
Don't you hate racists as well?

I don't hate anybody,other people are entitled to their own opinions whether I agree with them or not.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

I don't hate anybody,other people are entitled to their own opinions whether I agree with them or not.

So someone who is a racist and preaches racism OK with you?
In your mind racism is just an opinion?

Tell me ...do you disagree with racists and people who preach racism?
 
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So someone who is a racist and preaches racism OK with you?
In your mind racism is just an opinion?

Tell me ...do you disagree with racists and people who preach racism?

Yes I disagree with racists as I find the idea of one race being superior to another ridiculous...To say I HATE someone for having such an opinion would also be ridiculous.
 
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Yes I disagree with racists as I find the idea of one race being superior to another ridiculous...To say I HATE someone for having such an opinion would also be ridiculous.
Well i guess I'm just not as tolerant a person as you are Strucky.
I just never could tolerate racism at any level.
It brings out my ire.
 
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Are you SURE they're not racists? Some of the people who decry Bundy's comments openly preach hate against white people, especially white Southerners.
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Who knows? They may have a racist tendency but I think they dislike White Southerners for attitudes like this Mr. Bundy, the Duck Dynasty head honcho, Ted Nugent (and import Southerner now living in Texas) called Obama a subhuman mongrel, the south is the home of David Duke of the KKK, the south where MLK was shot dead and there are other politicians from the South with a not so clean score-sheet when it comes to making racist comments or belonging to racist groups.

Or a politician like Jesse Helms, who stated that NC university was a university of negroes and communists. A man who did his best to not have an MLK day in the US. A politician who opposed black judges from getting on the federal bench and who got struck across the knuckles by the Department of Justice for mailing 125,000 postcards to households in predominantly African-American precincts warning them (incorrectly) that they could go to jail if they had not updated their addresses on the electoral register since moving.

Ted Cruz called for a 100 more people like Jesse Helms in the senate. Great another Southern white man who is calling for more people who could very well be classified as a racist like Jesse Helms.




A group of young white males were drinking and partying in the small town of Puckett, in largely white Rankin County, Mississippi. According to a lawyer representing one (or more) of the perpetrators, they decided to go buy more beer in a location where stores were open later at night. According to law enforcement officials, Deryl Dedmon, a white man from Brandon, Mississippi, led the group, saying to his friends, "Let's go **** with some niggers." The group climbed into Dedmon's green 1998 Ford F-250 truck and a white Jeep Cherokee and drove 16 miles (26 km) west on Interstate 20 to a predominantly black area on the western edge of Jackson.

According to prosecutors, James Craig Anderson was near his truck in the parking lot at the Metro Inn in Jackson at 5 am on June 26.The two vehicles with the young whites pulled off the freeway and into the motel parking lot. They claimed they believed that Anderson was trying to steal a vehicle because they saw him trying to break into one. The vehicle was Anderson's own; he had lost his keys. The group repeatedly beat Anderson and robbed him, the district attorney said, citing reports from witnesses. Video from a motel security camera does not show any beating but shows the perpetrators entering and leaving the frame of the video. One witness reported that one of the perpetrators yelled, “white power,” when returning to his truck after the beating.

William Montgomery drove the Jeep away and Dedmon drove his pickup over Anderson, killing him. He left the scene at a high speed.

Later Dedmon boasted about beating and running Anderson over, saying, "I ran that nigger over," to the accomplices in the Jeep. Law enforcement officials said that Dedmon repeated that statement with the racial slur in subsequent conversations


Murder of James Craig Anderson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or the sign in the South that said "I do not support niggers in the white house"?

And I know it is not the majority of Southerners who think like that but they are still out there.
 
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So, those are warning words in Holland?

His body gaurd is an actual black dude; you're not even an American. What do you know about the history of our language.

I did not say warning words but warning signs. Warnings signs of a racist attitude at the least. Yes, his body guard is black, good for him, but that does not mean that the comments he made are acceptable to all without comment or other opinions. I also do not know Holland, I live in the Netherlands.
 
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Well i guess I'm just not as tolerant a person as you are Strucky.
I just never could tolerate racism at any level.
It brings out my ire.

I never said I "tolerate" racism,I do believe I said I don't hate anybody and if you truly can not tolerate racism at ANY level your gonna have to explain this quote-

If it were a black guy talking about "whitey" being better off as slaves I would find him humorous ...
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Within the context of the rest of his statement, I took that as an analogy for "because they never learned to work".

Since, in reality, picking cotton as an activity/job is in no way a race-specific activity. It has simply become iconic (is there a negative form of iconic, like famous/infamous? Nevermind.) of the slavery era, specifically in southern parts of the country.

No, he talked about slavery and picking cotton and not about not learning how to work. What does he know about honest work anyway? He steals from the government and then has a terrorist armed mob who want to stand women in front of them as cannon fodder in the enemy line.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

I did not say warning words but warning signs. Warnings signs of a racist attitude at the least. Yes, his body guard is black, good for him, but that does not mean that the comments he made are acceptable to all without comment or other opinions. I also do not know Holland, I live in the Netherlands.

Holland is another name for Netherlands....

Holland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:696]

Which means the Founding Fathers were quite liberal.

Yes, quite. Maybe the first liberals, the first to make liberalism active, anyway.

But where your claim fails is in the Civil War - because the South was anything but liberal.

You sure about that? Slavery aside, I mean.
I don't think liberalism was what made Lincoln emancipate the slaves.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Tell me folks... what is a bigger and more vile story... someone making a racist claim publicly OR
somone being framed by the NYT, taking his quotes way out of context in an effort to falsely paint him as a racist?

That's a no brainer... isn't it.

Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments,

What the hell is he talking about? We had a better family life as slaves !!!!! Most of our family members were separated and sold to other plantations. And you guys on the right support this clown !!!

The rats are now jumping ship...running like farts in the wind from this guy. Even the knuckledraggers from Fake News have backed off the guy.

Ah damn I can't be sarcastic, seriously **** this guy, **** his supports, **** these militias, **** Sean Hannity for trying to turn this guy into a hero.

Its a shame that this could end in a shoot out that could cost the lives of several law enforcement officers, but the more of these ****s that die the better off we'd all be

All out of context, and all done by the leading Propaganda Rag the NYT in an effort to destroy someone that takes on their beloved federal government.

Now... tell me... will you be utterly outraged by the behavior of a supposed newspaper for tryng to FRAME someone as racist? Not just any newspaper.
My money is on the answer: Fark NO! But surprise me!

Tell me... who is "the clown now"? The NYT Propaganda rag that cannot quote someone in context and tries to destroy someone, or Bundy, who shows compassion for the plight of people.

Do you still want people to die? Based on utterly false info??? Doesn't being fed crap and having your emptions toyed with like a feral cat piss you off just a little?

Tell me... when are YOU folks going to jump ship on such blatant lying... this isn't any small deal painting someone as a racist and doing so by taking their words totaly out of context.

This ought to be good.

And tell me... does this sound like a racist or someone with absolute undenying COMPASSION for the plight of people who are of different races?

... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
 
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Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

All out of context, and all done by the leading Propaganda Rag the NYT.
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Even the right wing poster boy Hannity threw his ass under the bus.
 
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:lamo

Lets accept your reality. YOUR reality is that that pathetic display was A-the right thing o do and B-the only real option the administration they had. So to recap...you actually believe this administration is so ****ing pathetic they cant even resolve a debt collection of a single US citizen. Well...hell...their foreign policy at least makes a lot more sense now.

Thats...embarrassing in so many was.

The difference between you and me is that I asked you your opinion. You told me mine and then you weakly attempted to mock me for it. For the record yes this was a cluster **** that could have been better managed, But let's be very clear. This ****wad was not a victim. He's lucky he is still alive, On some level one has to step up and do the right thing.

Some people are so cocksure they have all the answers because they think they know all the questions. Along the way they forget to ask. And they make total asses of themselves. Congratulations, Well done.
 
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Well i guess I'm just not as tolerant a person as you are Strucky.
I just never could tolerate racism at any level.
It brings out my ire.
I giggled...

cuz...no ****...
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

The difference between you and me is that I asked you your opinion. You told me mine and then you weakly attempted to mock me for it. For the record yes this was a cluster **** that could have been better managed, But let's be very clear. This ****wad was not a victim. He's lucky he is still alive, On some level one has to step up and do the right thing.

Some people are so cocksure they have all the answers because they think they know all the questions. Along the way they forget to ask. And they make total asses of themselves. Congratulations, Well done.
WAIT a second. You and the rest of your ilk run out here on this "what would YOU have done" bull**** kick (in this and other threads)...all the while KNOWING it was ****ed up (and you DEFINITELY knew it was ****ed up)...so...what is the point? You just said the SAME EXACT THING I have said in this thread and the other that I posted on. Bundy is a frog...a pissant...and this administration by their ham-handed actions CREATED another Putin. THAT has been the point all along.
 
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This guy is an idiot, from the time he was stealing grazing rights until today, he's been an idiot. Most people agree with that, right or left. The difference between the two perspectives is that the left supports how this idiot was dealt with and the right opposes it. But because we don't like how the situation was handled, we get branded as being his fans and he's a hero of the right. It is possible to think that we have a bad situation made worse and not like either side.
 
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I never said I "tolerate" racism,I do believe I said I don't hate anybody and if you truly can not tolerate racism at ANY level your gonna have to explain this quote-
Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
If it were a black guy talking about "whitey" being better off as slaves I would find him humorous ...
What is there to explain?
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

What is there to explain?

omg lol

You are intolerant of all forms of racism and yet would find it funny coming from a black man...smh
 
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