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reinoe said:

It would probably lead to shoot out at this point. Remember the one talking head talking about putting women on the front lines as meat shields? These cowboys are really the courageous types.

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They're conservatives. Conservatives don't rebel, they don't resist the government, they don't walk the walk. They whine and complain and stamp their feet and, in the end, they obey.
Always been that way. Armed rebellion is what liberals do and conservatives can't quite bring themselves to.

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Peter King said:

because they never learned to pick cotton

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Within the context of the rest of his statement, I took that as an analogy for "because they never learned to work".

Since, in reality, picking cotton as an activity/job is in no way a race-specific activity. It has simply become iconic (is there a negative form of iconic, like famous/infamous? Nevermind.) of the slavery era, specifically in southern parts of the country.

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One question. How did we get from cows to negroes?

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mak2 said:

He is a stupid red neck racist. The perfect RW hero. Geeze. What is wrong with you guys?

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What's wrong with those guys? Look again at the poll asking which is more important, the 'right' to discriminate or freedom from discrimination...and see who's supporting their 'right' to discriminate.

Look at what conservatives have been doing for decades - they're angry that we're taking away their 'rights' to discriminate, to use their prejudice against others, whether native American, Asian, Black, Hispanic, LGBT, or whatever.

THAT is what's wrong with these guys - their "right" to discriminate means more to them than the right of others to be free from discrimination...

...and I guarantee you that there's a whole heck of a lot of people over at Fox News who are publicly condemning Bundy, but privately wishing they could get away with saying exactly what he said.

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Grand Mal said:

They're conservatives. Conservatives don't rebel, they don't resist the government, they don't walk the walk. They whine and complain and stamp their feet and, in the end, they obey.
Always been that way. Armed rebellion is what liberals do and conservatives can't quite bring themselves to.

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Which means the Founding Fathers were quite liberal.

But where your claim fails is in the Civil War - because the South was anything but liberal.

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Crosscheck said:

One question. How did we get from cows to negroes?

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Cliven Bundy

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Glen Contrarian said:

Which means the Founding Fathers were quite liberal.

But where your claim fails is in the Civil War - because the South was anything but liberal.

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This is what happens when Libbos start trying to attach historical legitimacy to Liberalism...lol!

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crosscheck said:

one question. How did we get from cows to negroes?

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cnn......

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mak2 said:

He is a stupid red neck racist. The perfect RW hero. Geeze. What is wrong with you guys?

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He's not my hero Mak. And I don't think he's the hero of anyone that is on the right that isn't a nut. Is he a redneck? Probably. But, so am I. Do you know what redneck means? I mean the actual definition, not the harmful hateful meaning that those tolerant folks on the left use? It means a person that works outside in a blue collar job like construction, farming and ranching. I live on a farm now. And I have a red neck all year round due to getting a sunburn on the back of my neck from bending over and working with my hands.

But, you tolerant folks on the left keep using that label as a derogatory term, since hateful labels and dividing people into classes is what you guys are all about.

Did you watch the video in the link I posted? I doubt it. Did I say he was or wasn't a racist? No. I said "Who knows."

Well, obviously, the tolerant left knows and has labeled him so in another example of your tolerance for others and their beliefs.

Again, did he use a bad analogy? Damn right he did. What about the rest of his statements? Did he say anything that was racist at all? He made a bad analogy. A very bad and what could be considered an ignorant analogy. Ignorant in the way that he didn't explain himself or what he meant by that statement and ignorant of the way the left would jump all over it to cloud him in controversy to deflect from the real issues. Could it have been taken as an offensive statement. Sure it could. Did he mean it to be offensive? I doubt it, based on the totality of his statements in the video in the link I posted.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling people with your hateful terminology, like redneck... and of course, racist.

Now, is the guy wrong for stealing from the government? It sure appears to me that he is. Do I know everything that's going on in this situation? No, and no one else does either. Does it appear that Harry Reid has a financial interest in letting his corporate financial supporters use the same land to build a solar farm? Damn sure right it does.

There's more to this story than what we know so far. And to label this guy as anything more than just a guy that got caught using federal land without permission or paying for it is nothing more than an attack by the left to smear a guy and his supporters that are on the far right.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling those that you hate with hateful terms like racist and redneck. Otherwise, it would be harder to identify you and we may actually try to talk to you, which would expose us to being labeled as well. That happens to me almost everyday I post on this forum.

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apdst said:

Are you SURE they're not racists? Some of the people who decry Bundy's comments openly preach hate against white people, especially white Southerners.

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You left out the most important part especially white southern racists.

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I was not trying to insult you, I was talking about the collective RW.

you know what redneck means? I mean the actual definition, not the harmful hateful meaning that those tolerant folks on the left use? It means a person that works outside in a blue collar job like construction, farming and ranching. I live on a farm now. And I have a red neck all year round due to getting a sunburn on the back of my neck from bending over and working with my hands.

But, you tolerant folks on the left keep using that label as a derogatory term, since hateful labels and dividing people into classes is what you guys are all about.

Did you watch the video in the link I posted? I doubt it. Did I say he was or wasn't a racist? No. I said "Who knows."

Well, obviously, the tolerant left knows and has labeled him so in another example of your tolerance for others and their beliefs.

Again, did he use an a bad analogy? Damn right he did. What about the rest of his statements? Did he say anything that was racist at all? He made a bad analogy. A very bad and what could be considered an ignorant analogy. Ignorant in the way that he didn't explain himself or what he meant by that statement. Could it have been taken as an offensive statement. Sure it could. Did he mean it to be offensive? I doubt it, based on the totality of his statements in the video in the link I posted.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling people with your hateful terminology, like redneck... and of course, racist.

Now, is the guy wrong for stealing from the government? It sure appears to me that he is. Do I know everything that's going on in this situation? No, and no one else does either. Does it appear that Harry Reid has a financial interest in letting his corporate financial supporters use the same land to build a solar farm? Damn sure right it does.

There's more to this story than what we know so far. And to label this guy as anything more than just a guy that got caught using federal land without permission or paying for it is nothing more than an attack by the left to smear guy and his supporters that are on the far right.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling those that you hate with hateful terms like racist and redneck. Otherwise, it would be harder to identify you and we may actually try to talk to you, which would expose us to being labeled as well. That happens to me almost everyday I post on this forum.[/QUOTE]

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Buck Ewer said:

You left out the most important part especially white southern racists.

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You prove my point perfectly! Thank you!

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Buck Ewer said:

You left out the most important part especially white southern racists.

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Yes like Al Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd....

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Beaudreaux said:

He's not my hero Mak. And I don't think he's the hero of anyone that is on the right that isn't a nut. Is he a redneck? Probably. But, so am I. Do you know what redneck means? I mean the actual definition, not the harmful hateful meaning that those tolerant folks on the left use? It means a person that works outside in a blue collar job like construction, farming and ranching. I live on a farm now. And I have a red neck all year round due to getting a sunburn on the back of my neck from bending over and working with my hands.

But, you tolerant folks on the left keep using that label as a derogatory term, since hateful labels and dividing people into classes is what you guys are all about.

Did you watch the video in the link I posted? I doubt it. Did I say he was or wasn't a racist? No. I said "Who knows."

Well, obviously, the tolerant left knows and has labeled him so in another example of your tolerance for others and their beliefs.

Again, did he use a bad analogy? Damn right he did. What about the rest of his statements? Did he say anything that was racist at all? He made a bad analogy. A very bad and what could be considered an ignorant analogy. Ignorant in the way that he didn't explain himself or what he meant by that statement and ignorant of the way the left would jump all over it to cloud him in controversy to deflect from the real issues. Could it have been taken as an offensive statement. Sure it could. Did he mean it to be offensive? I doubt it, based on the totality of his statements in the video in the link I posted.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling people with your hateful terminology, like redneck... and of course, racist.

Now, is the guy wrong for stealing from the government? It sure appears to me that he is. Do I know everything that's going on in this situation? No, and no one else does either. Does it appear that Harry Reid has a financial interest in letting his corporate financial supporters use the same land to build a solar farm? Damn sure right it does.

There's more to this story than what we know so far. And to label this guy as anything more than just a guy that got caught using federal land without permission or paying for it is nothing more than an attack by the left to smear a guy and his supporters that are on the far right.

But, you guys on the tolerant left keep dividing people into classes and labeling those that you hate with hateful terms like racist and redneck. Otherwise, it would be harder to identify you and we may actually try to talk to you, which would expose us to being labeled as well. That happens to me almost everyday I post on this forum.

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And, according to the Libbos, anyone who uses hateful language is a bonefide racist.

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Glen Contrarian said:

What's wrong with those guys? Look again at the poll asking which is more important, the 'right' to discriminate or freedom from discrimination...and see who's supporting their 'right' to discriminate.

Look at what conservatives have been doing for decades - they're angry that we're taking away their 'rights' to discriminate, to use their prejudice against others, whether native American, Asian, Black, Hispanic, LGBT, or whatever.

THAT is what's wrong with these guys - their "right" to discriminate means more to them than the right of others to be free from discrimination...

...and I guarantee you that there's a whole heck of a lot of people over at Fox News who are publicly condemning Bundy, but privately wishing they could get away with saying exactly what he said.

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Go look at that thread you mention and read my post. Then back to me on what evidence you have to agree with Mak on his ridiculous statement about me and your comparing it to this thread and my post.

OR don't. And I'll know exactly what you are.

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mak2 said:

I was not trying to insult you, I was talking about the collective RW.

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No,he is the perfect right wing hero in the eyes of Liberals who do nothing but call others racist.

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Stop it. He is a racist and you know it.

apdst said:

And, according to the Libbos, anyone who uses hateful language is a bonefide racist.

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C'mon man! do you think blacks were happier as slaves? Yeppers it is the libs. :lamo

Strucky said:

No,he is the perfect right wing hero in the eyes of Liberals who do nothing but call others racist.

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mak2 said:

I was not trying to insult you, I was talking about the collective RW.

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You said "You Guys." The last time I checked, when someone addressed me with the term "You Guys" it included me.

Hence, me reaction.

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mak2 said:

Stop it. He is a racist and you know it.

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By your standard, so are most Libbos. Live with it.

I mean, you hated the guy anyway...no one expected you to treat him fairly.

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Be insulted if you want.

Beaudreaux said:

You said "You Guys." The last time I checked, when someone addressed me with the term "You Guys" it included me.

Hence, me reaction.

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mak2 said:

Be insulted if you want.

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Did you watch the video in the link I posted?

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What? He is ripping off the federal govt for over a million bucks and he disses the black people on the porch, that might have just got off work or something. Yea, right the problem with him is the LW jumping to conclusions. I am sure we don't have a smilie for that.

apdst said:

By your standard, so are most Libbos. Live with it.

I mean, you hated the guy anyway...no one expected you to treat him fairly.

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mak2 said:

C'mon man! do you think blacks were happier as slaves? Yeppers it is the libs. :lamo

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Did I imply in any of my remarks that I agreed with Bundy?The left is going to use these remarks to distract from their horrible policies the last 5 years,so yes in the eyes of Liberals this inarticulate 67 year old man who has attracted mostly Alex Jones type conspiracy theorists to his cause is the perfect boogyman to paint all Conservatives as racists.

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Excon said:

Listen to the whole unedited video and tell me exactly what he says that expresses a view that he thinks his race is better than anyone else's.
Do that and retract your bs claim of racism.
And no, saying Negro is not racist.
Seriously, listen to him.
And then listen to what his body guard has to say.

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He judges an entire race of people on something he says he saw once driving through Las Vegas.
He speaks of the "the Negros" as though they are a monolithic block of people with no differences between individuals.
These are the words a racist uses .
Clive Bundy is a racist.
The world understands this to be evident based on the man's own words.
Give it up.