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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ignorant asses shouldn't be totin' guns, but that hasn't stopped the ignorant asses for showing up and making it a standoff.
    And the clowns with the BLM were ready to kill people over a bunch of cows.

    The long and the short of it is: was it really important enough to kill American citizens for?
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And the clowns with the BLM were ready to kill people over a bunch of cows.

    The long and the short of it is: was it really important enough to kill American citizens for?
    The BLM officers were not ready to start a fire fight over a bunch of cows... Bundy's militias however, were.
    That is why the BLM backed away, to pursue law enforcement of the court order on another day in another setting without the bloodshed the militias were there itching for.
    That is why nobody is dead.
    The BLM demonstrated decorum, good judgement and a willingness to back away and avoid bloodshed when confronted by those who were willing to stop them from completing their duties with the threat of deadly force.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The BLM officers were not ready to start a fire fight over a bunch of cows... Bundy's militias however, were.
    That is why the BLM backed away, to pursue law enforcement of the court order on another day in another setting without the bloodshed the militias were there itching for.
    That is why nobody is dead.
    They demonstrated decorum, good judgement and a willingness to back away and avoid bloodshed when confronted by those who were willing to stop them from completing their duties with the threat of deadly force.
    The BLM showed up like it was Mogadishu. Yes, they were ready for a firefight.

    I believe it shows a very high degree of incompetance that NO ONE in the BLM said, "maybe we shouldn't roll in, armed to the teeth, looking like we're looking for trouble. It's just a buncha cows, afterall".
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The BLM officers were not ready to start a fire fight over a bunch of cows... Bundy's militias however, were.
    That is why the BLM backed away, to pursue law enforcement of the court order on another day in another setting without the bloodshed the militias were there itching for.
    That is why nobody is dead.
    They demonstrated decorum, good judgement and a willingness to back away and avoid bloodshed when confronted by those who were willing to stop them from completing their duties with the threat of deadly force.
    A good call considering that the Bureau of Land Mismanagement has apparently allowed this free grazing (adverse use easement?) since 1993.

    Something to think about: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/forestr...ofproperty.pdf
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The BLM showed up like it was Mogadishu. Yes, they were ready for a firefight.

    I believe it shows a very high degree of incompetance that NO ONE in the BLM said, "maybe we shouldn't roll in, armed to the teeth, looking like we're looking for trouble. It's just a buncha cows, afterall".
    They were armed as they were with backup from other agencies because Bundy's organizers had put out a call to arms across the country in the weeks prior to the confrontation. Some militias coming from as far away as New Hampshire and Idaho.
    The BLM officers in charge said exactly that. It was not worth the potential for bloodshed they saw coming.
    As you may remember it was the BLM who had the good sense to back away so no one would be killed ..."over a bunch of cows."

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    They were armed as they were with backup from other agencies because Bundy's organizers had put out a call to arms across the country in the weeks prior to the confrontation. Some militias coming from as far away as New Hampshire and Idaho.
    The BLM officers in charge said exactly that. It was not worth the potential for bloodshed they saw coming.
    As you may remember it was the BLM who had the good sense to back away so no one would be killed ..."over a bunch of cows."
    That post just made the BLM look even more idiotic.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    A good call considering that the Bureau of Land Mismanagement has apparently allowed this free grazing (adverse use easement?) since 1993.

    Something to think about: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/forestr...ofproperty.pdf
    The case has been in litigation for almost twenty years. The court order came down to confiscate Bundy's cattle just a few months ago. They were executing that recent court order when the brew-ha-ha ensued.
    This could not be construed as "adverse use easement" because charges had been filed every year the trespass and un-authorized use occurred.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That post just made the BLM look even more idiotic.
    No ...What would have made them look "idiotic" would be if they allowed bloodshed over, as you say ...a bunch of cows."
    Of the two groups the BLM demonstrated the better judgement by backing away.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No ...What would have made them look "idiotic" would be if they allowed bloodshed over, as you say ...a bunch of cows."
    Of the two groups the BLM demonstrated the better judgement by backing away.
    If they already knew the militia people were going to be there, they should have never rolled in like Sherman's March, to begin with!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And the clowns with the BLM were ready to kill people over a bunch of cows.

    The long and the short of it is: was it really important enough to kill American citizens for?
    The real long and short of it is no one was injured or killed but dealing with a 20 year scofflaw with ties to violent anti-govt. groups is not only important, it is essential. The Govts. actions were totally correct and I can't believe any American would say otherwise.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 04-29-14 at 01:51 AM.

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