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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

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    …” and so what I’ve testified to ya’, I was in the WATTS riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen the last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people is thinking they did not have their freedom; they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

    Let me tell.. talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro.

    When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas; and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids…. and there was always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for the kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for the young girls to do.

    And because they were basically on government subsidy – so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

    You know they didn’t get more freedom, uh they got less freedom – they got less family life, and their happiness -you could see it in their faces- they were not happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips – so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

    Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.

    And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.
    Don't even bother. They see what they want. Only black men are allowed to make hair raising comments and be given a pass.

    What an eye opener this has been for me. Ugh.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton.
    Pick cotton? Yeah, that's racist.

    Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy mooches off taxpayers, sitting on his porch sucking up government welfare.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

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    There is not need to.
    Nor is it any of your business exactly who I voted for.
    So let me simplify this for you; I have never voted for a republican candidate.
    I am an independent.
    Capisce?
    Riiiiiiiight...

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Maybe Pelosi wouldn't benefit from the perception, but there are lots of close, moderate on both sides races, that could easily be swayed by one party appearing to favor a racist agenda...
    We could never know for sure, but Priebus seems pretty sure he doesn't want to find out
    Maybe. Bundy shouldn't have been a political pawn to begin with, but let's be honest - both sides made him a political pawn.

    This is why I think most politicians deserved to be dunked in a vat of hot lard.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Come on, one more example. You can add as many words as you want this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I wouldn't waste my time now, mak. You'll just go with the other guys who hate Bundy because he's white, apparently.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

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    He is extremely racist.
    Wrong and an extremely idiotic comment to put forth.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    And having a black employee doesn't mean you're not racist.
    Never said any such thing. Duh!

    Yet he isn't a racist.
    Even this particular employee knows that.


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    And yes, what he said was racist.
    You are wrong, as it wasn't.

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    Saying "I wonder..." is merely a rhetorical device used to give the appearance of distance from the racist intent of what he said.

    Absurdly wrong.

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    It's like me saying, "I wonder if Excon molests little kids...". It's a very cheap qualifier, but it doesn't hide intent.
    Wrong.

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    Also, the nerve of Bundy accusing "blacks" of government dependence is hysterical since the welfare rancher has been mooching off taxpayers for 20 years.
    Your comment is pathetic. Especially as the two are separate issues involving your false claims.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Buck...no normal person even considers uttering the words "until white kids die" to make a point.
    I agree it's pretty hard core rhetoric but I don't think he was trying to be subtle.
    If he had said; too many black kids have died, and black people understand the situation differently... He would have said pretty much the same thing without the impact.
    He was going for impact.
    It seems he made one.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Pick cotton? Yeah, that's racist.
    No it wasn't. Content and context matter.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy mooches off taxpayers, sitting on his porch sucking up government welfare.
    iLOL An unresolved dispute does not make one a moocher, especially as he added improvements to the land.
    Your comment is ridiculously absurd and apparently just that of extremely irrational thoughts. As all your comments seem to be.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I agree it's pretty hard core rhetoric but I don't think he was trying to be subtle.
    If he had said; too many black kids have died, and black people understand the situation differently... He would have said pretty much the same thing without the impact.
    He was going for impact.
    It seems he made one.
    And you don't think Bundy was going for impact?

    What I think (and I don't know...I wasn't there and I'm not a mindreader) is that Bundy's angst towards Uncle Sam is SO deep that he used rhetoric to attempt to slam, full on body slam, Uncle Sam, and because he has neither the experience nor the skill in public speaking, and then you toss in his obvious childish glee at having an audience, it resulted in him uttering a jumble of words that came out wrong. I know you guys disagree with me, and that's fine, but my example is a perfect one of where rhetoric must be used sparingly and appropriately. Dyson is a very well educated man who has a lot of experience as a pundit on MNSBC, and you can bet your ass he regretted saying what he did.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Never said any such thing. Duh!
    You're the one who posted the video of Bundy's black bodyguard. So what conclusion are we to draw from that? Let me get this straight, the man that Bundy pays said the guy who pays his salary is not racist? Shocker.

    You are wrong, as it wasn't.
    yes, it was extremely racist. Saying black people didn't learn how to pick cotton is racist. it's a shame that has to be pointed out to you. I think you're just being obstinate for obstinacy's sake.

    Absurdly wrong.
    No, that's actually right. Any English 101 student could tell ya that. It's like saying "people say..." when you're the one saying it. Same rhetorical device. If instead of "I wonder..." Bundy said "Some people say..." he'd be doing the same thing. No, people aren't saying it...YOU ARE. Just like you don't really wonder about something like that unless you are of the position accepting it to begin with. But rhetoric isn't something the right really understands that much.

    Your comment is pathetic.
    What's pathetic is that you're avoiding answering to the fact that Bundy isn't some hero, he's just a run-of-the-mill racist welfare queen.

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