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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Yes, it was easy, and several posters did it.

    BLM employs law enforcement agents, who are armed and trained.
    You may choose to reject that, or accept it.
    I haven't seen a single link. Thus, nothing has been proven.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I haven't seen a single link. Thus, nothing has been proven.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I haven't seen a single link. Thus, nothing has been proven.
    They have a phone number, give them a call.

    Otherwise, it looks like you are just in denial about it.

    Want to find out for sure? Do the legwork.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not a strawman, it's a premise that you have failed to grasp. I suppose it being unstated requests a bit much brain juice for some, but I've seen it before and at least one poster here has admitted to it.

    The fundamental agreement to be made is that blacks are slaves today. The acceptance of that premise is the only thing the presenter of this opinion is really worried about (if they're conscious of what they're doing). Once that is accepted, the founding narrative is open and we must explore why blacks, despite all efforts at equal rights and justice, are still slaves today.
    We're all slaves today, Eco. It's not limited to one race, gender, or sexuality. Are blacks in a situation that could be construed as slavery? Yeah, sure. But then again, they are not alone. I don't agree with everything Bundy said, specifically when he said that they were better off as plantation slaves, but he did bring up alot of points that I feel should be considered. We are being taxed for half our income, our young men are being sent off to fight in meaningless wars, we have a criminal justice system designed to make everyone, even those who engage in victimless acts, criminals and capture non-violent criminals in order to fuel the prison industrial complex, and we have a media that justifies all of it. His point, which I feel was lost in assumptions and lack of knowledge regarding 1800s plantation slavery, was that an overwhelming amount of black Americans (and white for that matter) are in trouble. There are legitimate issues in our country, and they aren't really being brought up. That was his point, and it was lost under historic illiteracy and a tasteless use of the word "negro."
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    We're all slaves today, Eco.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    They have a phone number, give them a call.

    Otherwise, it looks like you are just in denial about it.

    Want to find out for sure? Do the legwork.
    It's your job to prove your argument correct, my friend.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's your job to prove your argument correct, my friend.
    I already did, you don't accept that a LEO has the responsibility to utilize deadly force when warranted. Not my job to prove it to you further, you are the one playing the semantic game. I know they do, and I accept it, you don't accept it, so,it is up to you to prove your assertion.

    Don't play obtuse.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    Tell you what, show us something that they said that was racist and we'll presume that you aren't an ignorant race baiter.
    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Racism is like bad breath.... the evidence is clear and abundant (and disgusting) to everyone but the carrier..
    Oh! You claiming I am a racist?
    Seems the NYT got a gaggle of useful idiots to carry water on behalf of statements they took out of context.

    I wonder... did you vote for Obama... a man who was mentored by an anti-American racist for 20-years. I'd bet yes.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    We're all slaves today, Eco.
    If I were a slave, I presume I'd do a lot more work. Whomever owns me is seriously negligent.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

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    It's your job to prove your argument correct, my friend.
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