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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    Stop...just stop!!!!!
    Why?

    I read/listened to Bundy's remarks, and that was my take on it. Explain how I'm wrong, if you want, but don't just tell me to shut up.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Why?

    I read/listened to Bundy's remarks, and that was my take on it. Explain how I'm wrong, if you want, but don't just tell me to shut up.

    Fine, regardless of how this idiot prefaced his statement about "the negro", as soon as the sentiment that they would be better off as slaves picking cotton came out, it became racist.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I don't take joy in the suffering of others
    Nah...just the killing of some American militiamen. Errr...do you mean of OTHERS killing those militiamen? You WERE itching to pull the trigger yourself, right?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nah...just the killing of some American militiamen. Errr...do you mean of OTHERS killing those militiamen? You WERE itching to pull the trigger yourself, right?
    You need to find another outlet for whatever it is that makes you act like this. Trust me I know about using debatepolitics as an outlet, I did it for months while I was deployed and after I got back it was anger, anger, anger. So whatever you got going on that makes you so pissed off and has you trying to pick a fight with folks, take my advice and take it somewhere else.

    So no I'm not "itching to pull the trigger" I've experienced war and I'd rather not do so again, however I don't believe that armed militia groups should have free reign and enough firepower to drive off the police when they come to enforce the law. If it has to come to violence to restore law and order, I just hope none of the law enforcement are killed in routing these guys.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    Fine, regardless of how this idiot prefaced his statement about "the negro", as soon as the sentiment that they would be better off as slaves picking cotton came out, it became racist.
    But he never made that statement.
    He said" "I've often wondered if they would be better off..." basically he's thinking aloud here.
    Which as I read it, is quite different from an outright declaration of "they would be better off".

    Hilariously out of touch and uninformed, though, if he seriously gave that thought much consideration...which apparently he did, if he's repeating it for a reporter.

    Edit: to clarify, I think bundy is racist...but unknowingly so...because he's uninformed/stupid.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You need to find another outlet for whatever it is that makes you act like this. Trust me I know about using debatepolitics as an outlet, I did it for months while I was deployed and after I got back it was anger, anger, anger. So whatever you got going on that makes you so pissed off and has you trying to pick a fight with folks, take my advice and take it somewhere else.

    So no I'm not "itching to pull the trigger" I've experienced war and I'd rather not do so again, however I don't believe that armed militia groups should have free reign and enough firepower to drive off the police when they come to enforce the law. If it has to come to violence to restore law and order, I just hope none of the law enforcement are killed in routing these guys.


    The bigger worry for big government Liberals is that the law enforcement guys care enough about "the cause" to risk their lives for it. Over and over and over. All just for Dear Leader Obama. I doubt it.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The bigger worry for big government Liberals is that the law enforcement guys care enough about "the cause" to risk their lives for it. Over and over and over. All just for Dear Leader Obama. I doubt it.
    When the "cause " is justice and law enforcement you can be sure that LEOs are ready to do what must be done and give what must be given must be see their job through.
    They took an oath to it.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Edit: to clarify, I think bundy is racist...but unknowingly so...because he's uninformed/stupid.
    That's my take on Bundy as well. I've known racists, I don't think Bundy knowingly is a racist, but he is an idiot.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Ironic that you are doing every thing you can to twist away from the fact that the militia guys out there were willing to sacrifice their women and children as shields. Is there anything more craven and cowardly than that?
    All I did was point out the similarities between what is happening in Nevada and the Occupy Movement......Had they actually carried it out it would have been a very cowardly act indeed.

    Repugnant, low IQ hillbillies with guns, defending a deadbeat welfare queen that (surprise!) is an old school racist.

    And yet, the ultra right still sees them as heroes. Amazing.
    Amazingly,I have not seen anyone from the right praise Bundy as a hero on this site!
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    All I did was point out the similarities between what is happening in Nevada and the Occupy Movement......Had they actually carried it out it would have been a very cowardly act indeed.



    Amazingly,I have not seen anyone from the right praise Bundy as a hero on this site!
    Maybe not, but Sean Hannity was originally calling him a patriot, until Bundy made his racist remarks. Now he is backing off on his support of Bundy, and rightfully so. But there is more to it than that. Hannity supported Bundy, as Bundy stated that he did not recognize the government of the United States of America. To me, that was wrong on so many levels. And it was FOX News' hype of Bundy that brought all the whackjobs to Bundy's ranch for that standoff in the first place. In that respect, FOX News' coverage was reckless and a form of yellow journalism not seen in a very long time.
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