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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

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    NO. The BLM is an enforcement agency, and has nothing to do with applying liens to property, that is the duty of the federal court system.
    Um, Federal courts can't place liens.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    His statements were either supremely uninformed (and thus unknowingly racist in nature)...or intentionally racist.

    Either way they were definitely laden with terms a racist would gladly throw around.
    Then you are fooling yourself.
    Content and context matter. They were not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Listen to his full unedited words. Content and context matter. They were not racist.


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    I see you are not paying attention to the full content and context of his statements.
    Or that of his body guard.









    These are not the words of a racist.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.


    Content and context matter. His words were not racist.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    I like that, now this idiot is a financial mastermind who has cleverly hidden his fortune in secret bank accounts the government can't track down! Which is weird because it looks like you are aware (we all are) of his actual financial situation, which makes your joke that much more funny!
    Yet now you come back saying Mr. Bundy is an idiot (Note: an idiot with a gun that was secretly planning to use women as a point of shields and sympathy; and, wanting every federal agent in the area to immediately hand over their guns to him. ) while earlier stating that it could have been handled another way peacefully? Excuse me.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You fail to understand the point... but with your 3 minutes here that isn't surprising.

    Bundy was pointing out government intervention has resulted in another form of enslavement... he did say something about not wanting to go back... did he not? He did show praise and respect for Mexicans... did he not?

    I don't know, but I think it might be time to start a Biggus Thickus list and create an annual award for those who simply fail to or choose not to see the obvious as they are blinded by ideology or are too intellectually dishonest to admit they were wrong.

    No, it's you who fail to understand or is it the Conservative mindset that some display, to spit at common sense. Again, who can anyone rationalize the belief that some people should live as human chattel?....don't you try to answer, you have failed too many times already. Give somebody more suitable a chance to make sense out of nonsense.

    Let me give an equally stupid example like the rationale couch potato patriots attempt to use.


    You know I really admire the knee-grows, the have gotten the right to vote and they have more jobs. They even own houses and have businesses. Those people have really gotten themselves together.

    However I still think that they would be happier if I could put them all out at daybreak and have them pick my cotton. Theys family would stay together because theys could all work in the same field and theys chidrins would not have to go to skool and get learning, theys mammys and pappys could teach 'em how to be good cotton pickers.

    Naw, nothing racist about that at all...

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    No, it's you who fail to understand or is it the Conservative mindset that some display, to spit at common sense. Again, who can anyone rationalize the belief that some people should live as human chattel?....don't you try to answer, you have failed too many times already. Give somebody more suitable a chance to make sense out of nonsense.

    Let me give an equally stupid example like the rationale couch potato patriots attempt to use.


    You know I really admire the knee-grows, the have gotten the right to vote and they have more jobs. They even own houses and have businesses. Those people have really gotten themselves together.

    However I still think that they would be happier if I could put them all out at daybreak and have them pick my cotton. Theys family would stay together because theys could all work in the same field and theys chidrins would not have to go to skool and get learning, theys mammys and pappys could teach 'em how to be good cotton pickers.

    Naw, nothing racist about that at all...

    Content and context matter. They were not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Listen to his full unedited words. Content and context matter. They were not racist.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I see you are not paying attention to the full content and context of his statements.
    Or that of his body guard.









    These are not the words of a racist.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.


    Content and context matter. His words were not racist.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Content and context matter. They were not racist.







    These are not the words of a racist.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.


    Content and context matter. His words were not racist.
    Funny, aren't you missing something??...oh yeah. "The Negro would be better served as slaves picking cotton"...lol.
    Right, nothing racist there..lol!!!

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course. And yet...you and others like you pee yourself talking about how its the 'other guys' that want Waco2. But hey...at least you are honest about it.

    Who knows...maybe they could call the RA in and you could lead a group that got to squeeze off a few rounds and kill of a few of them yourself. Dare to dream.

    Thats just a whole bucket of AWESOME...we have us a liberal REMFin' BADASS salivating at the prospect of killing himself some American militiamen.

    I don't take joy in the suffering of others

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Then you are fooling yourself.
    Content and context matter. They were not racist.

    These are not the words of a racist.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.


    Content and context matter. His words were not racist.
    I read a transcript of that first video, after listening to the same audio.

    I still think the remarks were at the least unknowingly racist. Intentionally I'm not so sure about.

    He assumes things about how black people live (and to a lesser extent, "Mexicans"). Due to those assumptions, he makes racist remarks that I suspect he doesn't even realize are racist.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    Funny, aren't you missing something??...oh yeah. "The Negro would be better served as slaves picking cotton"...lol.
    Right, nothing racist there..lol!!!
    That is out of context.

    In context that line is nowhere near as racist. Stupid, yes. Uninformed, definitely.

    But racist? Not so much.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That is out of context.

    In context that line is nowhere near as racist. Stupid, yes. Uninformed, definitely.

    But racist? Not so much.
    Stop...just stop!!!!!

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