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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No I don't think cops should use lethal force to collect unpaid traffic tickets, but my hypothetical wasn't that it was if a gang had taken over part of a city and had used the threat of force to prevent police from enforcing the law. OR what if a rancher had a million dollars in unpaid fines and him plus several hundred militia used threat of force to prevent police from enforcing any law.

    Personally I think the police would need to reestablish themselves in both cases.
    Except in your fairy tale hypothetical, the gangs seized control of a city (and again...if THAT happened, you wouldnt say **** about it and you know it). In the Bundy case...no one even knew the man existed until the fed bungled this situation. But I get it. You think the fed (not the state and locals...they could give half a damn about Bundy) should go wading in and kill anyone that doesnt comply and set things all back in order. Heck...maybe they would let you lead the charge. You should volunteer.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, yes, we know...you would have preferred it turn out like WACO.


    Except of course...everything I have ever said on the subject quite clearly states that LIKE Waco...they should have handled it differently. Funny how you and people like you rush to embrace the fed actions and their inept creation of this incident (and you even have wiseone over on your side downright frothy at the prospect of actually HAVING a bloodbath to set things to order-make them respect your authoritay!!!) but you keep on with the rhetoric about how its the 'other' people that wanted to see blood.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

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    Except of course...everything I have ever said on the subject quite clearly states that LIKE Waco...they should have handled it differently. Funny how you and people like you rush to embrace the fed actions and their inept creation of this incident (and you even have wiseone over on your side downright frothy at the prospect of actually HAVING a bloodbath to set things to order-make them respect your authoritay!!!) but you keep on with the rhetoric about how its the 'other' people that wanted to see blood.
    Of course you would've handled it differently. How, exactly?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Of course you would've handled it differently. How, exactly?
    I just suggested a course of action in# 495 that the BLM uses frequently. That was kicked around by sources such as NPR, CNN and even MSNBC. Hardly right wing or conservative outlets. The consensus among most reasonable people is that this situation could obviously have been handled better and in a multitude of other ways. Why pretend otherwise?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    I don't have all day, Mac. Are you going to tell us how you would've handled the situation, or not?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Uh....the standoff was over the removal of Bundy's cows on federal land....not debt collection. Some people are thick but you're a mile wide.
    That only makes the BLM-ocrats look even MORE idiotic.

    They couldn't even accomplish something as simple as herding 300 head off government land and onto Bundy's land without shooting six head, orphaning dozens of calves and recreating Bunker Hill?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't have all day, Mac. Are you going to tell us how you would've handled the situation, or not?
    He does not have to, there are after all many many ways it could have been handled. They have been covered quite extensively in the press, both in print as well as TV and radio. As in thousands of discussions and reporting on the story. Are you unable to follow any of it at all, or does it just have to be how VanceMack would himself have done it? Why? What does that matter in any way whatsoever? Because you have personal thing going for him? Or have you chosen to pretend that there was no other course and this has not been well documented and reported on?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't have all day, Mac. Are you going to tell us how you would've handled the situation, or not?
    He et. al. have already explained that the smart thing to do would be to place a lien on Bundy's property. How hard is that to understand?

    Surely, you're not suggesting that the BLM-ocrats had a good idea?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    I just suggested a course of action in# 495 that the BLM uses frequently. That was kicked around by sources such as NPR, CNN and even MSNBC. Hardly right wing or conservative outlets. The consensus among most reasonable people is that this situation could obviously have been handled better and in a multitude of other ways. Why pretend otherwise?
    Wait until he dies? That's it? Well hell, lets all wait until we die to pay our taxes.



    Are you familiar with John Singer? After he died his son-in-law took up the reigns and bombed an LDS church soon followed by a 13 day standoff. I seriously doubt that Bundy's rather large family would give their land without a similar fight.
    Last edited by Moot; 04-27-14 at 06:42 PM.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Of course you would've handled it differently. How, exactly?
    Ive listed numerous ways several times. But lets assume for a second you are right and gosh...that was it. They just took their best shot...the ONLY option...and they got ****ed. NOW what?

    But...really...you believe THAT was their best and only option?

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