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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You don't have a clue what anyone thinks let alone Bush, Clinton or Obama.


    The feds backed off because Gov. Herbert refused to allow the BLM to auction off the cows in Utah so they didn't have anywhere to take them. Had they gone to auction the government would have gotten their money back.

    Herbert was afraid of the militias showing up at the auctions and causing trouble. He was also afraid that Bundy would become the face of the state land grab over federal lands and he didn't want that.
    Gotcha! It wasnt Bush's fault OR Clintons fault. It was all Governor Herberts fault. Well...you knwo...as long as nothing ever is this administrations responsibility.



    And...why did you then keep trying to drag Bush into the mix? Oh...yeah...THATS right....



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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The guy shows respect and compassion for both Mexicans and blacks[/B]... and his point, though not too eloquent was... they're slaves of a different kind... now they are slaves of the state and by the federal government's doing.
    That is an asinine comparison ... no one owns anyone by giving them assistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Where is the outrage towards the NYT for trying to destroy this guy[/B] by taking his quotes way out of context?
    Where the fark is it?????????????????????????????
    Bundy single handedly destroyed himself... His speech and follow ups can be read or watched, in total, almost everywhere.
    He had the support of much of the right wing. With one unsolicited speech he is left with only the support of racists and extremist nutjobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These NYT assholes are far more vile than racists[/B]... don't you think?
    No I don't think so... No group of humans can be more vile than racists.
    Racists are the biggest, vilest assholes by far.
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 04-27-14 at 05:18 AM.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Gotcha! It wasnt Bush's fault OR Clintons fault. It was all Governor Herberts fault. Well...you knwo...as long as nothing ever is this administrations responsibility.



    And...why did you then keep trying to drag Bush into the mix? Oh...yeah...THATS right....


    Talking to you is like talking to a piece of dead wood. Good night, Vance.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Talking to you is like talking to a piece of dead wood. Good night, Vance.
    Right. THATS been the problem. NOT your kneejerk defense of all things administration. NOT that you tried to excuse and blame this administrations actions on Bush. NOT that that blew up in your face. NOT the repeated attempts to place the responsibility for choice and particularly...failure...on anyone other than the administration.

    A little music to play you to send you off to bed...


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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Gotcha! It wasnt Bush's fault OR Clintons fault. It was all Governor Herberts fault. Well...you knwo...as long as nothing ever is this administrations responsibility.



    And...why did you then keep trying to drag Bush into the mix? Oh...yeah...THATS right....


    The grazing fee on government land was established by an EXECUTIVE ORDER given by President Ronald Reagan...
    In 1986, President Reagan issued an Executive Order (EO)
    that put in place a market-based fee formula, using the
    Public Rangelands Improvement Act (PRIA) formula.

     The fee is calculated according to three factors: current
    private grazing land lease rates, beef cattle prices, and the
    cost of livestock production. In effect, the fee rises, falls, or
    stays the same based on market conditions.
    The EO set a minimum for the fee, in the event that market
    factors brought the fee below $1.35 per animal unit month
    .
    The fee has remained at that level for decades, indicating
    that ranchers are actually experiencing costs that would, by
    the formula, make the fee lower than $1.35.
    http://publiclandscouncil.org/CMDocs...zing%20Fee.pdf
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Many desperate folks trying to salvage this man... Theyll say anything to defend these truly racist comments.

    When an old white guy starts out by saying

    "let me tell you something else about the Negro"

    That isnt likely going to be a savory statement.
    What seems to be lost on most racists is that Bundy didn't say , some negros ...or many negros...or even, most negros... He said THE negro...
    Lumping all people with dark skin under one heading. That single phrase prefacing his speech may be the most racist thing he said that day.
    This kind of language is so common among racists and bigots they see nothing wrong with it.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The pen is mightier than the sword( or gun)

    Bundy will lose if he tries to argue his case in court.
    He already has;
    The Bundy standoff is a 20-year legal dispute between the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and cattle rancher Cliven Bundy in southeastern Nevada over unpaid grazing fees eventually developed into an armed confrontation between protesters and law enforcement. The dispute began in 1993 when grazing rules were changed and Bundy refused to pay the new bills to the US government for his cattle grazing on BLM-administered lands near Bunkerville, Nevada. In 1998, Bundy was prohibited from grazing his cattle on the Bunkerville Allotment by the United States District Court for the District of Nevada in United States v. Bundy.[2] In July 2013, the BLM complaint was supplemented when federal judge Lloyd D. George ordered that Bundy refrain from trespass on federally administered land in the Gold Butte, Nevada area in Clark County
    Bundy standoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    ... no one owns anyone by giving them assistance.
    LOL... no... but the government has done a bang-up job giving "assistance."
    Just look at the enslaving rot it has created. Or are you unfamiliar of what a tremendous job government and its community organizers have done? Which was Bundy's point... clearly evident except for those who prefer to defend their being mislead by the vile and deplorable NYT.

    Bundy single handedly destroyed himself... His speech and follow ups can be read or watched, in total, almost everywhere.
    He had the support of much of the right wing. With one unsolicited speech he is left with only the support of racists and extremist nutjobs.
    The message was one of compassion, respect and disgust for the plight of people enslaved by a government that has done tremendous damage.

    I wonder... did Obama's mentor and his best buddy, two racists... disgust you enough not to vote for him twice?
    Why do you support someone mentored by a racist?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You want to keep pressing your fairy tale hypothetical scenario? Your like minded buddies here apparently think your hypothetical posings are rather...whats the word they used...lame.

    Try a realistic scenario, since you and I both know quite clearly that if in your hypothetical musing the conflict involved inner city gangs this would never have come to light, you would have never said a word about it, and the administration would have ignored it. And since you already know my opinion on what they did as a means of debt collection, what makes you think I would feel any differently about collecting a debt from inner city gangs?

    Its really rather pathetic that you STILL believe that sending in an army of people to collect a debt was the right thing to do and gosh...really...it was their only option. Its especially embarrassing that you support the administration playing what you believe to be their ONLY card and getting turned out and made to look like little bitches. How did that debt collection thing work out again? How much did it cost the taxpayers to NOT collect the debt?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Well I guess you need to talk to all the people in the republicon party who have run away from this asshole because of his racist diatribe.
    They did not run away from any racist. They ran because they believed the spin placed on it by the left, which has thoroughly been discredited by what he actually said.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    People who supported his cause when he was just anti-American and can't wash their hands fast enough to distance themselves from his vile racist stink.
    And as there isn't any vile racist stink, your thinking, like the propaganda they bought into, is wrong and the only stink.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Smart republicons know to distance themselves and their party from his racist claptrap.
    You are hardly the arbiter of what a smart republican is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Republicons have enough trouble with a racist image without associating with,
    If the idiots on the left would stop making their false claims, there would be no problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    and supporting a man who is probably the most famous racist on the planet today.
    Oy vey! This comment flies in the face of what was actually said by him, and by what a black person who knows him a hell of a lot better than you do has said of him.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    But yeah keep defending his racist rant trying to defuse and deny what everyone sane in your party knows.
    No one is defending a racist.
    Since you do not seem to understand that, point out where he said his race was better than others.
    But since we know you can, stop with your false claims of racism.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    By defending racists who preach racism you are defining yourselves in no uncertain terms...
    No one is defending a racist.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    We will all remember what you have said...
    Proceed...
    Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo! iLOL

    Let's see.
    You make false claims of racism, can't back it up, and just because I point out the claims are false, you then try and bully me.
    It figures. This is typical behavior of those pushing false narratives/claims.

    You can created all the false memories you want.

    iLOL




    Those were not the words of a racist. So again, get to proving he is.
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