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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Well i guess I'm just not as tolerant a person as you are Strucky.
    I just never could tolerate racism at any level.
    It brings out my ire.
    I giggled...

    cuz...no ****...

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The difference between you and me is that I asked you your opinion. You told me mine and then you weakly attempted to mock me for it. For the record yes this was a cluster **** that could have been better managed, But let's be very clear. This ****wad was not a victim. He's lucky he is still alive, On some level one has to step up and do the right thing.

    Some people are so cocksure they have all the answers because they think they know all the questions. Along the way they forget to ask. And they make total asses of themselves. Congratulations, Well done.
    WAIT a second. You and the rest of your ilk run out here on this "what would YOU have done" bull**** kick (in this and other threads)...all the while KNOWING it was ****ed up (and you DEFINITELY knew it was ****ed up)...so...what is the point? You just said the SAME EXACT THING I have said in this thread and the other that I posted on. Bundy is a frog...a pissant...and this administration by their ham-handed actions CREATED another Putin. THAT has been the point all along.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    This guy is an idiot, from the time he was stealing grazing rights until today, he's been an idiot. Most people agree with that, right or left. The difference between the two perspectives is that the left supports how this idiot was dealt with and the right opposes it. But because we don't like how the situation was handled, we get branded as being his fans and he's a hero of the right. It is possible to think that we have a bad situation made worse and not like either side.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    I never said I "tolerate" racism,I do believe I said I don't hate anybody and if you truly can not tolerate racism at ANY level your gonna have to explain this quote-
    Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    If it were a black guy talking about "whitey" being better off as slaves I would find him humorous ...
    What is there to explain?

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What is there to explain?
    omg lol

    You are intolerant of all forms of racism and yet would find it funny coming from a black man...smh
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    omg lol

    You are intolerant of all forms of racism and yet would find it funny coming from a black man...smh
    I would find it funny because the sentence has no historical reference... It would be a fantasy statement without any basis in reality...
    funny...

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post

    Even the right wing poster boy Hannity threw his ass under the bus.
    You see... I expected this type of response. I'll wait and see if your cohorts behave in the same dimwitted manner.

    You are given the entire quote IN CONTEXT, and you fail to be outraged about being played like a dumb cat by the propagandists at the NYT.

    So for you, having the full weight of the NYT to falsely paint somoene as a racist in an attempt to destroy them... doesn't bother you?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I would find it funny because the sentence has no historical reference... It would be a fantasy statement without any basis in reality...
    funny...
    Apparently you are not aware of whites being used as slaves...

    A million Europeans enslaved

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    An American historian says that more than a million Europeans were enslaved by North African slave traders between 1530 and 1780, a time of vigorous Mediterranean and Atlantic coastal piracy.
    The number of white European slaves is only a fraction of the trade that brought 10 million to 12 million black African slaves to the Americas over a 400-year period, historian Robert Davis says, but his research shows the slave trade was more widespread than commonly assumed. The impact on Europe’s white population was significant.
    “One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature — that only blacks have been slaves. But that is not true,” said Mr. Davis, an Ohio State University professor.

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    A million Europeans enslaved - Washington Times
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Apparently you are not aware of whites being used as slaves...

    A million Europeans enslaved

    REUTERS NEWS AGENCY
    An American historian says that more than a million Europeans were enslaved by North African slave traders between 1530 and 1780, a time of vigorous Mediterranean and Atlantic coastal piracy.
    The number of white European slaves is only a fraction of the trade that brought 10 million to 12 million black African slaves to the Americas over a 400-year period, historian Robert Davis says, but his research shows the slave trade was more widespread than commonly assumed. The impact on Europe’s white population was significant.
    “One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature — that only blacks have been slaves. But that is not true,” said Mr. Davis, an Ohio State University professor.

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    A million Europeans enslaved - Washington Times
    Jews were slaves first and then killed, and this happened not too long ago. I do believe most were white.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    So what, he has a black body guard?
    It isn't just that he is black, it is what he says.
    Or are you just too damn prejudiced to see that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    For me warning signs are words like:

    colored people

    let me tell you about negroes

    they abort their young children

    they put their young men in jail

    because they never learned to pick cotton
    Warning signs?
    Bs!
    You look at what was said, how it was said, and what was actually meant.

    And if the idiots could past the point of their false claims of racism, maybe we get started actually discussing and coming up with ways to fix the problem that he sees in the condition of the black man enslaved to the welfare state.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    but what he said was racist and he deserves to be called out for his dumb, insensitive remarks about African Americans. I was of that opinion when it was said by the boss of the Duck Dynasty and I am of the same opinion here. You do not have to be a racist to make racially insensitive remarks (it helps but it is not a prerequisite).
    Nothing he said was racist.
    And this crap about sensitivities is bs.





    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Within the context of the rest of his statement, I took that as an analogy for "because they never learned to work".

    Since, in reality, picking cotton as an activity/job is in no way a race-specific activity. It has simply become iconic (is there a negative form of iconic, like famous/infamous? Nevermind.) of the slavery era, specifically in southern parts of the country.
    That is because you bother to consider what he meant by what he said.





    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He judges an entire race of people on something he says he saw once driving through Las Vegas.
    He speaks of the "the Negros" as though they are a monolithic block of people with no differences between individuals.
    These are the words a racist uses .
    Clive Bundy is a racist.
    The world understands this to be evident based on the man's own words.
    Give it up.
    Wtf? He didn't judge them.
    And no, he is not a racist. That is an idiotic claim.
    And no, racists do not use the words he used in the way he used them. So can your bs.
    He spoke directly to the welfare state and how it has harmed the negro race.

    And if anybody thinks the following is what a racist would say, their thinker isn't on straight.
    I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.
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