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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You said "its a shame that this could end in a shoot out that could cost the lives of several law enforcement officers, but the more of these ****s that die the better off we'd all be".
    Whoa... Wiseone really said that? Can you point me to the post?
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes you did.


    By taking his words out of context.
    Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.




    Because you are being dishonest by saying you didn't take them out of context when you have.


    Yes your dishonesty is sad and troubling.
    No.
    I did not take words out of context, I did not lie at any point, and I'm tired of YOUR bull**** lies claiming that I have done so.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No.
    I did not take words out of context, I did not lie at any point, and I'm tired of YOUR bull**** lies claiming that I have done so.
    I do not care what you are tired of.
    No one is forcing you to reply of defend your taking his words out of context.

    But you did take his words out of context and it is dishonest to say otherwise.
    Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Whoa... Wiseone really said that? Can you point me to the post?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1063193236

    And several posters here quite liked the post.

    He claims to be a current military officer, and he said exactly that-advocating for the deaths of US citizens for what they said-in fact the more the better he said.

    I wonder what the military might think of this?

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I do not care what you are tired of.
    No one is forcing you to reply of defend your taking his words out of context.

    But you did take his words out of context and it is dishonest to say otherwise.
    Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    I feel it necessary to defend my position, since I do not think I took his words out of context or lied.

    We've been over this several times now.

    No, I did not (to my knowledge, at least) take his words out of context.
    No, I have not lied (to my knowledge, at least).
    I have even agreed that his words ARE rooted in concern, rather than (as you put it) "disparagement, hatred, or intolerance".

    I DO maintain, however, that he made multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations which caused his statements to be disparaging of black persons - he did not intend them as such, he is/was just uninformed.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1063193236

    And several posters here quite liked the post.

    He claims to be a current military officer, and he said exactly that-advocating for the deaths of US citizens for what they said-in fact the more the better he said.

    I wonder what the military might think of this?
    Damn... I cant believe my eyes...

    I really liked Wiseone too... Time to revise my opinion on my own judgment of character.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Damn... I cant believe my eyes...

    I really liked Wiseone too... Time to revise my opinion on my own judgment of character.
    I dont know that he actually is a military officer as he claims, but even if he is-im fairly certain advocating for the deaths of Americans because of their politics is not just immoral and unethical, it might be illegal.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Being racist is one thing, but organising a nation-wide press conference to televise racist views to the nation is another thing entirely. And then when challenged upon it, he organized a second press conference to double down on his racism. That's just hilarious.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by law View Post
    Being racist is one thing, but organising a nation-wide press conference to televise racist views to the nation is another thing entirely. And then when challenged upon it, he organized a second press conference to double down on his racism. That's just hilarious.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I feel it necessary to defend my position, since I do not think I took his words out of context or lied.

    We've been over this several times now.
    Yes we have.
    You took his word out of context and

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, I did not (to my knowledge, at least) take his words out of context.
    Yes you have, and yes you do know it as it has been pointed out to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    rather than (as you put it) "disparagement, hatred, or intolerance".
    As I put it? iLOL
    I am using the words that define racism so that you will understand just how flawed your position is.
    His words were not racist.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I DO maintain, however, that he made multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations which caused his statements to be disparaging of black persons - he did not intend them as such, he is/was just uninformed.
    Oh bs. Nothing of the sort was done.
    There were no multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations accept on the part of those making them against him.
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