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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I see you want to keep going round and round.
    Figures.
    You are wrong again as previously shown.

    Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

    He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
    He was not unwittingly racist.
    And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

    To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
    It is dishonest to say otherwise.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Isnot.
    Still wanting to go round and round.
    Figures.

    You are wrong again as previously shown.

    Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

    He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
    He was not unwittingly racist.
    And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

    To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
    It is dishonest to say otherwise.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Still wanting to go round and round.
    Figures.

    You are wrong again as previously shown.

    Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

    He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
    He was not unwittingly racist.
    And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

    To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
    It is dishonest to say otherwise.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    iLOL No it isn't. Being poorly spoken or unable to express his thoughts clearly does not make a person racist.
    It is absurd to assert such.
    All assumptions based on your own prejudicial thoughts.
    None based in context of what he said.
    Wrong. This is nothing more than you going outside of context to falsely cast racial aspersions.
    Your whole opinion is pretty sad considering he was speaking of concern, not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    So if I said, "I'm very concerned about the blacks. Ever since we decided they were ready to leave the plantation, it's all been downhill. Unfortunately for the blacks, they have yet to understand how to be civilized and are still little more than violent, primitive animals who are incapable of anything other than murdering white people."

    That's permissible speech, right? I'm speaking out of concern, not disparagement, hatred, or intolerance. Just because Bundy apparently believes that all black people are on welfare and approve of abortion and violence - and believes that they are better off as slaves - doesn't mean he's racist! It just means that he... what does it mean?

    I'm still waiting for you to provide that context that says he was only talking about some black people. Because I saw his entire speech, and nowhere did he specify who he was talking about, but at multiple times he expressly implied that he was talking about the entirety of the black population. Of course, such generalizations are usually meant to only apply to the vast majority, but I don't think that's an important distinction. Either way, what he said was either ignorant or racist. And if it was ignorance, it was the type of ignorance that comes from a lifetime of living among racist people. You picked a really awful person to defend.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    So if I said, "I'm very concerned about the blacks. Ever since we decided they were ready to leave the plantation, it's all been downhill. Unfortunately for the blacks, they have yet to understand how to be civilized and are still little more than violent, primitive animals who are incapable of anything other than murdering white people."

    That's permissible speech, right? I'm speaking out of concern, not disparagement, hatred, or intolerance. Just because Bundy apparently believes that all black people are on welfare and approve of abortion and violence - and believes that they are better off as slaves - doesn't mean he's racist! It just means that he... what does it mean?

    I'm still waiting for you to provide that context that says he was only talking about some black people. Because I saw his entire speech, and nowhere did he specify who he was talking about, but at multiple times he expressly implied that he was talking about the entirety of the black population. Of course, such generalizations are usually meant to only apply to the vast majority, but I don't think that's an important distinction. Either way, what he said was either ignorant or racist. And if it was ignorance, it was the type of ignorance that comes from a lifetime of living among racist people. You picked a really awful person to defend.
    Another racist would not find what Bundy said being racist at all, to them he is simply speaking the truth. I will leave it at that.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And Bundy will still graze his cattle, while they fertilize the land with their manure.
    Well Gollllieee! The dang feds ought to be a payin' Bundee fer all that there free bull shat he's bin a givin' em!

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Isnot.
    Yes you is wrong, as previously shown.

    Words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance, are words of concern that are not of disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
    You have to take them out of context to suggest they are of disparagement. Unintentional or otherwise.

    He was not disparaging, unintentionally or otherwise.
    He was not unwittingly racist.
    And in context, there were no faulty generalizations or assumptions.

    To even suggest such, you have to take what he said out of context.
    It is dishonest to say otherwise.





    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to provide that context that says he was only talking about some black people.
    No you are not. It has already been provided.
    He was specifically speaking of those on welfare.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Because I saw his entire speech, and nowhere did he specify who he was talking about, but at multiple times he expressly implied that he was talking about the entirety of the black population.
    Then you choose not to see what is there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Either way, what he said was either ignorant or racist. And if it was ignorance, it was the type of ignorance that comes from a lifetime of living among racist people. You picked a really awful person to defend.
    You are simply wrong.





    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Well Gollllieee! The dang feds ought to be a payin' Bundee fer all that there free bull shat he's bin a givin' em!
    Are you saying that he didn't provided lawn care services for the land?
    Because it sure looks that way, and then sounds like the Gov has taken advantage of him.
    He provided lawn care services and instead of paying, they want to charge him for it. What a shame.
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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Well Gollllieee! The dang feds ought to be a payin' Bundee fer all that there free bull shat he's bin a givin' em!
    I've heard if you gather them, and place them neatly, by stacking, they make really nice and warm and cozy huts. Kinda like a igloo, 'cept it's probably called a pooploo.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    I believe Mr. Bundy may still be a better man than most of those of the opposing view who only claim to have a clue and a Cause.

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    Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I've heard if you gather them, and place them neatly, by stacking, they make really nice and warm and cozy huts. Kinda like a igloo, 'cept it's probably called a pooploo.

    Cow-Dung-pile.jpg
    Whell lookie thare ... thet Bundee feller dun give them thare feds sum free housin' as whell as free ferterlizer.
    They ot ta put him in charge of HUD! Then them thare negras he cares so much about will have a nice place ta live fer free!
    A corse we know they'd be much happier as slaves tho!...
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