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Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

:naughty
No, you took them out of context to do so.
I did not.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

I did not.
To say that which you did :naughty, yes you did so.
They were words of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

To say that which you did :naughty, yes you did so.
They were words of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
You keep insisting I took words out of context - I did not.

I just have a different interpretation of the words.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

You keep insisting I took words out of context - I did not.
Yes you did.

I just have a different interpretation of the words.
Yes, by taking his words out of context.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

Yes you did.

Yes, by taking his words out of context.
No.





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Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

As usual. You are wrong again.
You took his words out of context to draw the conclusions you did.
You had to, because in context they are not disparaging, of hatred or of intolerance.
Only out of context can you suggest such.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

As usual. You are wrong again.
You took his words out of context to draw the conclusions you did.
You had to, because in context they are not disparaging, of hatred or of intolerance.
Only out of context can you suggest such.
No.


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Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Not really, the world is much more complex than you realize. Your simple stereotypes and generalizations don't hold water and when faced with a reality that contradicts them you just deny it. Whats wrong is your ego too fragile, is your brain too weak, something else maybe? Well regardless of what it I hope you overcome it and realize that thinking "if he really were a military officer he would say such and such a thing, and do such and such a thing" is really stupid and completely baseless. This is especially true since you have no military experience whatsoever, and don't claim to have any real knowledge of how the military works, but you still don't see a problem with maintaining a stereotype of what military members "should look like." Maybe its arrogance thats your problem.

You said "its a shame that this could end in a shoot out that could cost the lives of several law enforcement officers, but the more of these ****s that die the better off we'd all be".

You have also repeatedly stated you are a current US military officer.

So you tell me, how are statements advocating for the death of civilians by the same govt that YOU currently work for generally tolerated by your employer?

I wonder how your CO would feel about you as a military officer saying "the more of these ****s that die the better off we'd all be" in reference to American citizens, here in the US. What do you think?
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

You are wrong again. As usual.
His words were words of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

You are wrong again. As usual.
No.




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Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:


His words were words of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
So you are again wrong as usual, and that obviously isn't going to change.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

So you are again wrong as usual, and that obviously isn't going to change.
Hilariously incorrect.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

Hilariously incorrect.
Yes you are.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

Yes you are.
I've explained myself clearly.

I did not take words out of context, I simply interpreted what he said differently than you.

But you won't accept that, and keep responding with the same statement over and over.

It's kinda sad.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

I did not take words out of context,
Yes you did.


I simply interpreted what he said differently than you.
By taking his words out of context.
Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.



But you won't accept that, and keep responding with the same statement over and over.
Because you are being dishonest by saying you didn't take them out of context when you have.


It's kinda sad.
Yes your dishonesty is sad and troubling.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

You said "its a shame that this could end in a shoot out that could cost the lives of several law enforcement officers, but the more of these ****s that die the better off we'd all be".

Whoa... Wiseone really said that? Can you point me to the post?
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

Yes you did.


By taking his words out of context.
Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.




Because you are being dishonest by saying you didn't take them out of context when you have.


Yes your dishonesty is sad and troubling.
No.
I did not take words out of context, I did not lie at any point, and I'm tired of YOUR bull**** lies claiming that I have done so.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

No.
I did not take words out of context, I did not lie at any point, and I'm tired of YOUR bull**** lies claiming that I have done so.
I do not care what you are tired of.
No one is forcing you to reply of defend your taking his words out of context.

But you did take his words out of context and it is dishonest to say otherwise.
Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Whoa... Wiseone really said that? Can you point me to the post?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ts-s-exactly-w-696-1188-a.html#post1063193236

And several posters here quite liked the post.

He claims to be a current military officer, and he said exactly that-advocating for the deaths of US citizens for what they said-in fact the more the better he said.

I wonder what the military might think of this?
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

I do not care what you are tired of.
No one is forcing you to reply of defend your taking his words out of context.

But you did take his words out of context and it is dishonest to say otherwise.
Because in context, his words are of concern, not disparagement, hatred or intolerance.
I feel it necessary to defend my position, since I do not think I took his words out of context or lied.

We've been over this several times now.

No, I did not (to my knowledge, at least) take his words out of context.
No, I have not lied (to my knowledge, at least).
I have even agreed that his words ARE rooted in concern, rather than (as you put it) "disparagement, hatred, or intolerance".

I DO maintain, however, that he made multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations which caused his statements to be disparaging of black persons - he did not intend them as such, he is/was just uninformed.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ts-s-exactly-w-696-1188-a.html#post1063193236

And several posters here quite liked the post.

He claims to be a current military officer, and he said exactly that-advocating for the deaths of US citizens for what they said-in fact the more the better he said.

I wonder what the military might think of this?

Damn... I cant believe my eyes...

I really liked Wiseone too... Time to revise my opinion on my own judgment of character.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Damn... I cant believe my eyes...

I really liked Wiseone too... Time to revise my opinion on my own judgment of character.

I dont know that he actually is a military officer as he claims, but even if he is-im fairly certain advocating for the deaths of Americans because of their politics is not just immoral and unethical, it might be illegal.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Being racist is one thing, but organising a nation-wide press conference to televise racist views to the nation is another thing entirely. And then when challenged upon it, he organized a second press conference to double down on his racism. That's just hilarious.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Being racist is one thing, but organising a nation-wide press conference to televise racist views to the nation is another thing entirely. And then when challenged upon it, he organized a second press conference to double down on his racism. That's just hilarious.
The underlined is a distortion of reality, as it is not what happened.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’[W:

I feel it necessary to defend my position, since I do not think I took his words out of context or lied.

We've been over this several times now.
Yes we have.
You took his word out of context and

No, I did not (to my knowledge, at least) take his words out of context.
Yes you have, and yes you do know it as it has been pointed out to you.

rather than (as you put it) "disparagement, hatred, or intolerance".
As I put it? iLOL :doh
I am using the words that define racism so that you will understand just how flawed your position is. :doh
His words were not racist.



I DO maintain, however, that he made multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations which caused his statements to be disparaging of black persons - he did not intend them as such, he is/was just uninformed.
Oh bs. Nothing of the sort was done.
There were no multiple faulty assumptions and generalizations accept on the part of those making them against him.
 
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