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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    OMG, another thread of someone offended by another's thought.
    Yay!
    Yes, like this is because of another's thought, no, you may think everything you want but if you proclaim this kind of racist BS you have to expect the backlash from people who are not racists or who dislike racist idiots.

    You may defend his right to say this idiotic moronic dribble, but that also gives others the right to verbally shoot this kind of idiocy down.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, like this is because of another's thought, no, you may think everything you want but if you proclaim this kind of racist BS you have to expect the backlash from people who are not racists or who dislike racist idiots.

    You may defend his right to say this idiotic moronic dribble, but that also gives others the right to verbally shoot this kind of idiocy down.
    Listen to the whole unedited video and tell me exactly what he says that expresses a view that he thinks his race is better than anyone else's.
    Do that and retract your bs claim of racism.
    And no, saying Negro is not racist.
    Seriously, listen to him.
    And then listen to what his body guard has to say.





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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, like this is because of another's thought, no, you may think everything you want but if you proclaim this kind of racist BS you have to expect the backlash from people who are not racists or who dislike racist idiots.

    You may defend his right to say this idiotic moronic dribble, but that also gives others the right to verbally shoot this kind of idiocy down.
    Are you SURE they're not racists? Some of the people who decry Bundy's comments openly preach hate against white people, especially white Southerners.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    I found a transcript of Bundy's remarks in full:


    and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

    Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

    Here are the heavily quoted comments from Bundy that followed the above section edited out by most news organizations.

    Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

    And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

    You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

    Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.
    Source: Unedited Tape of Bundy Emerges, Sheds Light on 'Racist' Remarks | Truth Revolt
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Context is always important, especially when the person talking seems to be a racist idiot.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    You guys might be right. I just got home and listened to the whole thing. He might be too stupid to be racist.
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Listen to the whole unedited video and tell me exactly what he says that expresses a view that he thinks his race is better than anyone else's.
    Do that and retract your bs claim of racism.
    And no, saying Negro is not racist.
    Seriously, listen to him.
    And then listen to what his body guard has to say.





    So what, he has a black body guard?

    For me warning signs are words like:

    colored people

    let me tell you about negroes

    they abort their young children

    they put their young men in jail

    because they never learned to pick cotton

    If I say Negro or black or slave ... if those people cannot take those kind of words and not be (offended), Martin Luther King hasn't got his job done yet.


    I am not saying the man is definitely a racist, but what he said was racist and he deserves to be called out for his dumb, insensitive remarks about African Americans. I was of that opinion when it was said by the boss of the Duck Dynasty and I am of the same opinion here. You do not have to be a racist to make racially insensitive remarks (it helps but it is not a prerequisite).
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Here's the whole video, without being edited to get the minions inflamed. Is he an eloquent speaker? Obviously not, he's a cow guy that works with cows, not a public speaker. Did he use a very bad analogy? I think he made an awful analogy. IS he a racist? Who knows. But the unedited video when taken in context seems to show him as a person that not only respects other races but wants to do something to help them climb out of poverty and enslavement of the current government systems.

    Here's the video: HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy
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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    So what, he has a black body guard?

    For me warning signs are words like:

    colored people

    let me tell you about negroes

    they abort their young children

    they put their young men in jail

    because they never learned to pick cotton

    If I say Negro or black or slave ... if those people cannot take those kind of words and not be (offended), Martin Luther King hasn't got his job done yet.


    I am not saying the man is definitely a racist, but what he said was racist and he deserves to be called out for his dumb, insensitive remarks about African Americans. I was of that opinion when it was said by the boss of the Duck Dynasty and I am of the same opinion here. You do not have to be a racist to make racially insensitive remarks (it helps but it is not a prerequisite).
    So, those are warning words in Holland?

    His body gaurd is an actual black dude; you're not even an American. What do you know about the history of our language.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

    He is a stupid red neck racist. The perfect RW hero. Geeze. What is wrong with you guys?
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Here's the whole video, without being edited to get the minions inflamed. Is he an eloquent speaker? Obviously not, he's a cow guy that works with cows, not a public speaker. Did he use a very bad analogy? I think he made an awful analogy. IS he a racist? Who knows. But the unedited video when taken in context seems to show him as a person that not only respects other races but wants to do something to help them climb out of poverty and enslavement of the current government systems.

    Here's the video: HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy
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