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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's a single-seat vehicle. Look at the fuel economy from the perspective of MPG/person. If I buy a car that gets 30 MPG, but I carpool with three other people, that's moving four people @ 30 MPG or 120 MPG/person. The Elio is stuck at 84 MPG/person. It's stuff like this that makes me shake my head. You have a highly impractical vehicle that if put into large scale production would put more cars on the road than a practical one that could hold four people and put fewer cars on the road. Classic eco-nut dumbness. If you're the type who doesn't carpool, then go ahead and salve your conscience with one of these or you could start a carpool and do some REAL good.
    Where's this magic carpool group that's full of people who drive to the same places at the same time as me? I'm very curious.

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's a single-seat vehicle. Look at the fuel economy from the perspective of MPG/person. If I buy a car that gets 30 MPG, but I carpool with three other people, that's moving four people @ 30 MPG or 120 MPG/person. The Elio is stuck at 84 MPG/person. It's stuff like this that makes me shake my head. You have a highly impractical vehicle that if put into large scale production would put more cars on the road than a practical one that could hold four people and put fewer cars on the road. Classic eco-nut dumbness. If you're the type who doesn't carpool, then go ahead and salve your conscience with one of these or you could start a carpool and do some REAL good.

    It is a two seater read or even watch any of the videos?

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anyways... I took a look at the website and found this:



    ... Well this is either brilliant or absolutely stupid. Why a credit card? I think that people who don't have $6800 (which is enough for a decent down payment on a car) won't be too concerned about racking up credit card debt. A simpler solution would be a pay for use system (think cellphone or WoW accounts for you nerds). Car owners would have to deposit a minimum amount of say $100 into an account before the car became usable. Once depositing those funds, a code would be given and the car would function again.

    I think that is an available option for poorer folks eventually they may take EBT payments. But i am sure it is not the only payment option.

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's a single-seat vehicle. Look at the fuel economy from the perspective of MPG/person. If I buy a car that gets 30 MPG, but I carpool with three other people, that's moving four people @ 30 MPG or 120 MPG/person. The Elio is stuck at 84 MPG/person. It's stuff like this that makes me shake my head. You have a highly impractical vehicle that if put into large scale production would put more cars on the road than a practical one that could hold four people and put fewer cars on the road. Classic eco-nut dumbness. If you're the type who doesn't carpool, then go ahead and salve your conscience with one of these or you could start a carpool and do some REAL good.
    The reality is that people don't carpool as much as they should. Compared to four of five lanes of lone drivers on the freeway to the number of cars in the 'passenger-only-lanes' during rush hour bares the truth of it.

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    It is a two seater read or even watch any of the videos?
    Ah, I was looking at the pics and never noticed that there was a back seat. Thanks for pointing that out.
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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    Where's this magic carpool group that's full of people who drive to the same places at the same time as me? I'm very curious.
    The point is that building a car that is designed to encourage single drivers isn't what we should be moving towards. Look at some of the overcrowded Asian cities wehre they have a multitude of "mini-cars". Making the cars smaller just added to the congestion. We need to encourage car-pooling/ride-sharing as much as we can and car that only holds two people isn't the way to do it.
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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    I drive about 80 miles a day. This would be pretty useful.

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    Re: 6800 bucks 84 mpg american made

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    The point is that building a car that is designed to encourage single drivers isn't what we should be moving towards. Look at some of the overcrowded Asian cities wehre they have a multitude of "mini-cars". Making the cars smaller just added to the congestion. We need to encourage car-pooling/ride-sharing as much as we can and car that only holds two people isn't the way to do it.
    Encouraging single drivers? Most people already drive alone and I highly doubt anyone who doesn't already drive alone is going to buy one of these cars. Car pooling and ride sharing are fine ideas, but they can only be used efficiently by people who are coming from and going to roughly the same place. There are millions upon millions of drivers who don't have that option, not to mention the fact that you don't car pool and ride share to the grocery store and the pharmacy or to your grandmothers house. There are plenty of useful applications for a car like this that would increase overall efficiency. "Asian" cities aren't overcrowded because of mini-cars or scooters for that matter. They are overcrowded because there are a lot of people in a small space. If you've lived in a big city before, you'd know that mini cars can be incredibly convenient for parking and take up half the space that a traditional car would while being plenty useful for the limited applications of a car in big cities with public trans.

    So lets see? Somehow change the driving habits of 100+ million people who drive alone on a daily basis mostly out of necessity....oooooorrrr....produce a car that meets their needs while being produced in America, getting 3 times the fuel efficiency as other cars, and costing a third as much? I don't see how there is even a question here.
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