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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I have heard - don't know - that San Diego, Jackson, MS and Minneapolis VAs are very good. As I mentioned earlier Tucson has been outstanding in my experience.
    Just look for lots of retirees who can afford very upscale homes, who live on the beach, and who golf at world-class local facilities. I promise the local VA clinic will be world-class as well. I'm thinking of Bandon, Oregon as I scribble this.

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    It doesn't matter what figures Washington got. It would not have made any difference.

    This is the inevitable result of Washington demanding that wait times be shortened without providing the resources needed to do it.

    Having to wait months for an appointment is SOP.
    One can't make that assumption. When confronted with the Walter Reed outpatient scandal, then Secretary of Defense Gates moved decisively to address the matter. Accurate information on long waits could have reinforced arguments for added resources (financial, human, etc.) or reprioritization of existing resources. Instead, false information that created a perception of a satisfactory (relative to federal requirements) situation was presented.

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by pogomutt View Post
    Just look for lots of retirees who can afford very upscale homes, who live on the beach, and who golf at world-class local facilities. I promise the local VA clinic will be world-class as well. I'm thinking of Bandon, Oregon as I scribble this.
    You know, that could very well be a consideration in terms of the care I've received from the VA.

    I've used the Northport VAMC (Northport, NY) and the Lyons and Orange NJ facilities.

    Neither of them are located dead in the middle of affluent towns (in fact Orange is something of a dump) but they're both surrounded by fairly affluent areas.
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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From CNN:
    A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list - CNN.com

    IMO, this is an outrageous and unconscionable crime. The management of this system and al others who participated in the scheme should be held accountable for the 40 deaths. Any managers who are members of the Military, should be dishonorably discharged in addition to being held criminally responsible. No person, much less veterans who put their lives at risk for the nation, ever deserved to be treated in such a callous fashion.
    First of all, let me say this loud and clear in case nobody else has:

    The military has nothing to do with the Veterans Administration!

    The VA is a completely separate cabinet level department. The military does not run it, the military does not work in it, the military has nothing to do with it, other then being the source of those they take care of.

    Period.

    And why are you shocked? The VA is a perfect example of Government Medical Care at it's finest. It has been an abortion for 30 years, and will continue to be an abortion 30 years from now. Ask pretty much any Veteran, and we can tell you horror stories about the VA.

    Point in fact, my wife did her residency at a VA hospital. She has told me for over 20 years that she would never let me be put into one.
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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Horrible....Isn't this sort of what single payer is?
    J-Mac... let's privatize services & benefits given to the military? Yes?
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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You know, that could very well be a consideration in terms of the care I've received from the VA.

    I've used the Northport VAMC (Northport, NY) and the Lyons and Orange NJ facilities.

    Neither of them are located dead in the middle of affluent towns (in fact Orange is something of a dump) but they're both surrounded by fairly affluent areas.
    Lyons is a very affluent enclave. I grew up right near there and know the VA facility well. I had a relative who lived there in the 1980s. It looks almost like a college campus.

    Orange is a cesspool but I never saw their VA facility.

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Lyons is a very affluent enclave. I grew up right near there and know the VA facility well. I had a relative who lived there in the 1980s. It looks almost like a college campus.

    Orange is a cesspool but I never saw their VA facility.
    I didn't realize Lyons was money, but I guess it stands to reason that it is. I know Bridgewater and Morristown and several other towns in the area (or areas of other towns in the area) are.

    I grew up in Old Bridge, 15 or 20 miles to the Southeast.

    Learn something new every day I guess.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    It is interesting that Todays Republicans seem so fixated on healthcare (ACA, VA, Costs..etc..) yet have never offered a solution.

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I didn't realize Lyons was money, but I guess it stands to reason that it is. I know Bridgewater and Morristown and several other towns in the area (or areas of other towns in the area) are.

    I grew up in Old Bridge, 15 or 20 miles to the Southeast.

    Learn something new every day I guess.
    I know Old Bridge well.

    Lyons is right outside of Bernardsville, and hard on the Basking Ridge border. Both extremely wealthy towns. It probably makes that VA hospital better than the others.

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    Re: A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list [W:36]

    Oh no.
    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    It is interesting that Todays Republicans seem so fixated on healthcare (ACA, VA, Costs..etc..) yet have never offered a solution.
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