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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    depends on the class and if it is a manditory class that all kids have to take at some point. if the book was just for one class then only the students taking the class would need to buy it. there is no reason to waste student money supplying a book to all students if all students didn't need it.

    not all students signed up for the class or the class has only so many students in it so why waste money paying for a book that only a small amount are going to use?
    couldn't have anything to do with indoctrination now could it?

    the only person that made out like a bandit was the author of the book and the thousands of books the college's bought.
    The merit of the program itself isn't really the issue here. The State isn't pulling funding because the idea of buying everyone in the freshman class one book is wasteful. They've been doing it for years with no complaints until they picked a book that a few people didn't like.

    It is a mandatory class for some majors I believe, but not one you have to take that semester and it would have been a different book each semester if I understand it right.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, make an argument as to why the Constitution prohibits the government from cutting the funding of the class. I can't see how you are going to do that.
    Because they are cutting funding with the very public intent of discouraging an institution for teaching a particular issue that has civil rights implications.

    This may violate the university's right to academic freedom, which is typically considered to exist at an institutional level.

    "Attempts at external control of expression on college campuses have resurfaced in the past decade, as interest groups use educational institutions as forums to promote their ideological viewpoints and agendas. Challenges brought by community members and students against the content of first-year student orientation reading assignments and student plays performed as course assignments have generally failed."

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, make an argument as to why the Constitution prohibits the government from cutting the funding of the class. I can't see how you are going to do that.
    I'll put the same question to you. Can you find a precedent where it IS constitutional to target an institution for teaching about the defining civil rights issue of the time?

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, make an argument as to why the Constitution prohibits the government from cutting the funding of the class. I can't see how you are going to do that.
    I apparently didn't have to do this after all because someone already did it for me.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    you clearly have no concept of what censorship is. Spend a few years in Saudi Arabia or Iran, that will clear it right up.
    Really? The 'we're not as bad as those guys' argument?
    The state needs to cut all funding to all universities or butt out of their business. Legislators aren't elected to make decisions about college curricula. They're not qualified and not mandated.
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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    When my kids go to college, my husband & I will be paying. We will decide what's appropriate. I have no interest in other adults providing my children with graphic content and pictures. They can provide that to their kids all day long.
    College should be partly about seeing a broader world than the one your helicopter parents depicted for you. If you want a sheltered education for your kids, send them to a religious school. The rest of world want to deal with, you know, reality?
    You can never be safe from a government that can keep you completely safe from each other and the world. You must choose.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    College should be partly about seeing a broader world than the one your helicopter parents depicted for you. If you want a sheltered education for your kids, send them to a religious school. The rest of world want to deal with, you know, reality?
    If she is paying for the education then she gets to decide what she will agree to pay for. That is something liberals like you can't stand sadly.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If she is paying for the education then she gets to decide what she will agree to pay for. That is something liberals like you can't stand sadly.
    Sure and she can go to another college or a religious college like the guy said. That's an individual right, not the right of the State.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If she is paying for the education then she gets to decide what she will agree to pay for. That is something liberals like you can't stand sadly.
    I am not denying that she gets to decide that. I am just saying that it is incredibly small minded. That is something that conservatives like you can't even comprehend, sadly.
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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I am not denying that she gets to decide that. I am just saying that it is incredibly small minded. That is something that conservatives like you can't even comprehend, sadly.
    How is it small minded to say I will only pay for classes teaching subjects that I agree should be taught? One of the main problems with the government being involved in education is that it ignores what parents want their kids to learn in favor of what the government wants kids to learn.
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